Stephen:
On Jun 15, 2014, at 6:10 AM, Stephen C. Rose wrote: > But scientific facts are not in opposition to triadic philosophy since its > practice issues in measurable results in the form of expressions and actions. > Matt had posted the following: "The Buddhist logicians Dignaga and Dharmakirti, who were objective idealists, concluded that there could never have been a before "us" and there will never be an after us. I came to see things their way." I posted: Scientific facts are in opposition to your conclusion. My response was directly aimed at the notion of temporality in reference to human existence. The concepts of emergence and evolution are grounded on the concept of historical changes of life forms. Cheers Jerry > @stephencrose > > > On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 12:05 AM, Jerry LR Chandler > <[email protected]> wrote: > Matt: > > Scientific facts are in opposition to your conclusion. > > Cheers > > jerry > > > On Jun 14, 2014, at 5:11 PM, Matt Faunce wrote: > >> Stephen, It appeared to me that you had hijacked the term "pragmaticism", >> and I still think you might have. Peirce was an idealist, and the idea that >> 'we are reality,' if "we" means those of us whose essence is our mind, is a >> cornerstone of pragmaticism. In this sense there never was a reality before >> we came into being and there would be no reality after us. >> The Buddhist logicians Dignaga and Dharmakirti, who were objective >> idealists, concluded that there could never have been a before "us" and >> there will never be an after us. I came to see things their way. (Although I >> was warned that my source, the translations and explanations by Th. >> Stcherbatsky, circa 1932, are too "post-Kantian".) I'm not sure what Peirce >> thought of the time before us but I suspect he agreed with the Buddhist >> logicians. >> >> Matt >> >> On Jun 13, 2014, at 10:51 PM, "Stephen C. Rose" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> "All people" is my definition of "we" in the following statement: "We are >>> inevitably social. We are capable of achieving a sense of universality. >>> This universal sense distinguishes Triadic Philosophy." Triadic philosophy >>> regards most accepted divisions among human beings as secondary to a >>> fundamental unity which transcends them all. >>> >>> @stephencrose >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 9:38 PM, Matt Faunce <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Stephen, please define "we" as you used the word below. >>> >>> Matt >>> >>> On Jun 12, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "Stephen C. Rose" <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Triadic Philosophy honors Peirce by claiming that it is a tiny offshoot of >>>> what he came to mean by the term pragmaticism. This term was his evolution >>>> of pragmatism. Pragmaticism is a bastion against the dominant notion that >>>> we are all reality is. We are not all of reality. Our individual >>>> perceptions are not all reality. Before we are, reality is. After we are, >>>> reality remains. Pragmaticism opens the door to a metaphysics based >>>> precisely on the premise that by our fruits we shall be known. It is a now >>>> metaphysics. It proves out. It is not supposition. >>>> >>>> We are inevitably social. We are capable of achieving a sense of >>>> universality. This universal sense distinguishes Triadic Philosophy. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ----------------------------- >>> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >>> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >>> [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L >>> but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY >>> of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> ----------------------------- >> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >> [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but >> to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of >> the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . >> >> >> >> > > > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to [email protected] > . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but to [email protected] > with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of the message. More at > http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . > > > >
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