Who uses well their light

holds to the bright
and from the body wards off blight
and hides what does not change
from human sight.


>From my "The New Tao"

*@stephencrose <https://twitter.com/stephencrose>*


On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 4:39 PM, Gary Richmond <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Phyllis, list,
>
> I agree that 'reason' would be a very poor translation of 'tao' in the*
> Tao Te Ching*. But I don't think this is what Peirce, or Carus for that
> matter, means. Peirce writes:
>
>  . . .The opinion just now referred to, that logical principles are known
> by an inward light of reason, called the "light of nature" to distinguish
> it from the "light of grace" which comes by revelation, has been the
> opinion entertained by the majority of careful logicians.
>       The phrase "light of reason," or its near equivalent, may probably
> be found in every literature. The "old philosopher" of China, Lao-Tze, who
> lived in the sixth century B.C. says for example, "Whoso useth reason's
> light, and turneth back, and goeth home to its enlightenment, surrendereth
> not his person to perdition. This is called practising the eternal." The
> doctrine of a light of reason seems to be inwrapped in the old Babylonian
> philosophy of the first chapter of Genesis, where the Godhead says, "Let us
> make man in our image, after our likeness." It may, no doubt, justly be
> said that this is only an explanation to account for the resemblances of
> the images of the gods to men, a difficulty which the Second Commandment
> meets in another way. But does not this remark simply carry the doctrine
> back to the days when the gods were first made in man's image? To believe
> in a god at all, is not that to believe that man's reason is allied to the
> originating principle of the universe? CP 2.23-24
>
>
> So, the expression he has in mind in quoting Carus' translation of Chapter
> 52, section 3 of the Tao Te Ching is "light of reason," not "reason" pure
> and simple.
>
> The final sentence quoted above, viz., "To believe in a god at all, is not
> that to believe that man's reason is allied to the originating principle of
> the universe?" makes me think of the term "Logos", the Word, meaning 'God',
> which occurs at the beginning of the Gospel of John: "In the beginning was
> the Word, and the Word was with God, and the word was God."
>
> I can't say that I very much like Carus' translation of the passage in
> question, so here are a few other translations of it:
>
> http://mpgtaijiquan.blogspot.com/2014/07/tao-te-ching-by-lao-tzu-chapter-52.html
>
>
>
>
>
> *Use your light, but dim your brightness, In this way you will not do
> yourself any harm. This is called following the eternal Tao." -  Translated
> by Chou-Wing Chohan <http://www.egreenway.com/taoism/ttclztrans3.htm>,
> Chapter 52   *
>
>
>
>
> *Follow the Light, you will reflect its radiance.Neglect the Inner Life,
> your body will meet with calamity.This is called the eternal heritage."-
> Translated by Isabella Mears
> <http://www.egreenway.com/taoism/ttclztrans3.htm>, 1916, Chapter 52*
>
>
>
>
> *Use your light, but dim your brightness;Thus you will cause no harm to
> yourself.This is called following the eternal Tao."-  Translated by Ch'u
> Ta-Kao <http://www.egreenway.com/taoism/ttclztrans3.htm>, 1904, Chapter
> 52  *
>
> Best,
>
> Gary
>
>
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>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 1:32 PM, Phyllis Chiasson <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Listers,
>>
>> I am reading Paul Carus's translation of the Tao, in which he uses the
>> term, Reason, for Tao. E.g. " The Reason that can be Reasoned is not the
>> eternal Reason."
>>
>> Since Carus & Peirce were connected, does anyone know if use of the term,
>> Reason, for Tao comes from Peirce, or relates to Peirce's correlation of
>> reason & God? To the highest level of his Ethical classes of motives
>> (religionism) as Reason? To Retroduction (reason) as the operative engine
>> of the universe, etc.
>>
>> I'm wondering, among other things who influenced whom in this choice of
>> terms. I'm guessing Peirce to Carus.... But could it have been the other
>> way around? Is there another source?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Phyllis
>>
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