Dear Stan, Gary, lists - I think intersubjectivity is widely different from social constructivism. Husserl's take on the former is that objectivity is the correlate to intersubjectivity, and despite his (prudent) caution with the subject-object terminology, I think Peirce's theory of science with truth in the limit of collective investigation over time amounts to a similar idea. Social constructivism, by contrast, takes also the contents of scientific investigation to be but dependent variables on the changing social instiution and power struggles of science, effectively precluding any truth in the limit. Best f
Den 15/09/2014 kl. 00.06 skrev Gary Fuhrman <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> : Stan, my answer to your question (below) is a little different from Edwina’s, but similar. From: Stanley N Salthe [mailto:[email protected]<http://binghamton.edu/>] Sent: 14-Sep-14 3:44 PM Gary noted [quoting Peirce]: Consciousness may mean any one of the three categories. But if it is to mean Thought it is more without us than within. It is we that are in it, rather than it in any of us” (letter to James, Nov. 1902). S: Why is this not just the ‘Intersubjectivity’ of the social constructivism perspective? That is, it is 'out there only in the sense of being in, or saturating, a particular historical moment. GF: We are indeed immersed in intersubjectivity when we engage in scientific thought. But we are also relying on the assumption that the phenomena which are the objects of our study (including those that are general or typical) have their being independently of our construction of theories about them, which entails that actual experience can tell us if those theories are false. Social constructivism, as I understand the term, does not include that assumption. And that’s the difference, as I see it. gary f.
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