Stan,

 

In Peirce’s view (and mine, and Frederik’s), fallibilism is part of the core 
logic of science. It is a historical fact that scientists very often choose to 
ignore or deny the fallibility of their favorite theories. But this only shows 
that scientists can do bad science; it does not alter the normative logic of 
science. Trying to base your logic, your epistemology or your metaphysics on 
facts about the sociology of science is just another variant of the 
“psychologism” that would base logic on psychology, and I think Frederik has 
already explained why it’s invalid. 

 

The problem with social constructivism (when taken beyond the obvious truth 
that scientific theories ARE socially constructed) is that it doesn’t allow for 
fallibilism, because it doesn’t admit that any hypothesis can be conclusively 
proven false. That move — unlike fallibilism — renders the concept of truth 
meaningless, and therefore reduces science into a political struggle. If you 
hold to it consistently, you can’t even assert that social constructivism 
itself is true, because it would just be a theory constructed to serve your own 
political purposes. It’s a self-destructive theory.

 

Anyway, I think there’s more to life than politics.

 

gary f.

 

From: Stanley N Salthe [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 15-Sep-14 10:48 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [biosemiotics:6836] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 2

 

Gary -- replying to:

 

GF: We are indeed immersed in intersubjectivity when we engage in scientific 
thought. But we are also relying on the assumption that the phenomena which are 
the objects of our study (including those that are general or typical) have 
their being independently of our construction of theories about them, which 
entails that actual experience can tell us if those theories are false. Social 
constructivism, as I understand the term, does not include that assumption. And 
that’s the difference, as I see it.

 

S: This goes beyond the boundaries of what I was commenting on. But...

 

social construction has addressed this point.  Testing VERY generally -- 'yes, 
objects only fall down' -- has already been accomplished in the past by 
successful cultures. The more recondite testing done in the laboratories of 
scientists is a more 'iffy' and subtle phenomenon.  If it does not relate to 
societal interests it won't be carried out in the first place. If it has been 
blessed with societal support it is still problematic from an 'objective' 
perspective. When is a result deemed definitive?  How to determine when an 
experiment is finished? How do the results appear to those holding competing 
theories (the experimenter was a holder of some theory)? These questions will 
depend also upon the social conditions bearing at the time when the results 
came in. Consider the single seemingly definitive test of curved spacetime (the 
sun's rays appearing before the sun's perisphere (?) had peeked from behind the 
moon). The result was immediately taken as definitive given the popular 
notoriety of Einstein at the time, 'proving' his views.  Well, there are in 
fact other interpretations, and, indeed, the interpretation of any experimental 
results depends upon theories held by the investigators. It is well-known that 
these interpretations are theory laden, as was the experiment -- in a carefully 
planned experiment you can only find (or not) what you are searching for. This 
is why Popper tried so hard to suggest that theories are meant to be rejected, 
and that all WILL be disproven given time (during which, of course, a culture 
will have continued to evolve as well).

 

It was this kind of thinking that so, understandably, 'ticked off' the 
scientific community against social constructivism.

 

STAN

 

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