OK - yes, I know that three of the ten classes have the relation with the Interpretant in a mode of Secondness and thus, are termed 'dicent'. Their other relations may be in a mode of Secondness or Thirdness (never, of course, within Firstness). I was under the impression, from my as yet unfinished reading of Ch 3, that the dicisign within that text referred only to the dicent symbolic legisign. I'll get to that text on the weekend.
Edwina ----- Original Message ----- From: Gary Fuhrman To: [email protected] ; 'Peirce List' Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2014 11:48 AM Subject: [biosemiotics:6980] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.2 Edwina, lists, In Peirce, “dicent sign” is synonymous with “dicisign”. A dicent symbolic legisign is a proposition; as Peirce puts it, “a proposition is, in short, a Dicisign that is a Symbol. But an Index, likewise, may be a Dicisign” (EP2:282). So for Peirce, the dicent symbolic legisign is not the only kind of dicisign. Three of the “Ten Classes” (EP2:294-6) are dicisigns. gary f. From: Edwina Taborsky [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24-Sep-14 9:16 AM To: [email protected]; 'Peirce List' Subject: [biosemiotics:6977] Re: Natural Propositions, Chapter 3.2 I'm confused by this argument. My understanding of 'symbol' is that it refers to a singular and specific relation; that between the Representamen and the Object - which can be 'iconic, indexical or symbolic'. The dicisign, on the other hand, is the full triad, a dicent symbolic legisign - i.e. all three parts of the triad (Object-Representamen-Interpretant) are involved. Therefore, I am confused by the reference below to 'symbol' and 'does not mention the dicisign at all'. The two are not comparable in my view. And how can a dicisign - which i understand to mean a 'dicent symbolic legisign' be 'non-symbolic'? Or are you referring to the dicent indexical legisign? My apologies for the confusion. Edwina
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