Lists,

I'd add to this nice outline by Ben the only book length treatment of
Peirce's classification which offers, as I recall (I'll check when I've
returned to my NYC apartment by the middle of next week) at least a dozen
versions, the final version called there the "perennial" version:
Charles S. Peirce: Logic and the Classification of the Sciences
McGill-Queens University Press
 - January 1, 1987

Best,
Gary R


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On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Benjamin Udell <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Stan, Howard, Gary F., lists,
>
> Stan, the ordering of the special sciences that you provided, with which I
> roughly agree for my part, is not quite the same as Peirce's. Moreover, the
> ordering that Gary F. referenced was not one within the special sciences
> (as Peirce called them) - physical, chemical, biological, sociological,
> etc., but instead an ordering within a larger classification. Here's a
> summary of Peirce's later views of the ordering of the sciences:
>
> A. Discovery sciences:
>   1. (Pure) mathematics. Deduction about purely hypothetical objects.
>   2. Cenoscopy, also called _*philosophia prima*_, also called philosophy
> for short. Analysis, by phaneroscopic method, of positive phenomena in
> general.
>
>
>
> * i. Phaneroscopy, also called phenomenology, also called categorics. ii.
> Normative sciences (a. esthetics, b. ethics, c. logic (as formal
> semiotic)). iii. Metaphysics (a. ontology, b. religious metaphysics, c.,
> physical metaphysics). *   3. Idioscopy, also called the special sciences
> (two wings: physical (efficient-causal) and mental (final-causal), Peirce
> is unsure about whether physical or mental is prior and about whether the
> order matters; anyway, orthogonally to the physical-mental distinction,
> Peirce makes a three-way distinction into a. nomological sciences (about
> the universal laws and elements of physical or mental phenomena), b.
> classificatory sciences, c. descriptive sciences). Idioscopy makes special
> experiments / experiences of special classes of positive phenomena. The
> nomological / classificatory distinction to some extent involves the
> ordering physical, chemical, biological, in Peirce's system at that time.
>
> B. Review sciences, also called synthetic philosophy, also called 
> _*philosophia
> ultima*_. This attempts to build a philosophy of science on the basis of
> results from the discovery sciences. Examples of this nature include
> Humboldt's _Cosmos_, Comte's _Philosophie positive_, Spencer's _Synthetic
> Philosophy_. The work of classifying the sciences belongs in this
> department.
>
> C. Practical sciences, also called the arts.
>
> On Peirce's classifications in the later years, See:
> Tommi Vehkavaara's chart http://people.uta.fi/~attove/peirce_systems3.PDF
> Peirce's classification from the "Syllabus" (1903) 
> http://web.archive.org/web/20111105121054/http://www.princeton.edu/~batke/peirce/cl_o_sci_03.htm
>
> My Wikipedia article on it, which contains many footnotes with links : 
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_the_sciences_%28Peirce%29
>
>
> Peirce's earlier as well as later classification:
> Tommi Vehkavaara's other chart http://www.uta.fi/~attove/peirce_syst.PDF
>
> Best, Ben
>
> On 12/7/2014 11:00 AM, Stanley N Salthe wrote:
>
> Howard --
>
>  HP:  12/6/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
>
> GF: Peirce saw the sciences as organized hierarchically, and
> logic/semiotics as"higher" than any specialized science (such as physics or
> psychology or biology), since all reasoning and inquiry is a form of
> semiosis.
>
> HP: Not persuasive.
>
> GF: It wasn't supposed to be persuasive. It was supposed to be descriptive
> of Peirce's view of the sciences. We already know that you view them
> differently.
>
> SS:  If we understand the meaning of the Spencer-Comte-Peirce hierarchy (a
> subsumptive hierarchy
> {physics {chemistry {biology {sociology}}}}
> I think it is impossible to be unpersuaded by it!
>
> Surely chemistry depends upon physical forces, while biology depends upon
> chemistry!, while each more inner subclass adds more 'information' as it
> harnesses the more outer classes to its requirements.
> In what way is this "unpersuasive"
>
> STAN
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
>
> Howard,
>
> It wasn't supposed to be persuasive. It was supposed to be descriptive of
> Peirce's view of the sciences. We already know that you view them
> differently.
>
> gary f.
>
> From: Howard Pattee
> Sent: 6-Dec-14 8:24 PM
>
> At 09:54 AM 12/6/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
>
> Peirce saw the sciences as organized hierarchically, and logic/semiotics
> as"higher" than any specialized science (such as physics or psychology or
> biology), since all reasoning and inquiry is a form of semiosis.
>
> HP: Not persuasive. See Penrose's 3 worlds
> https://www.google.com/search?q=penrose+3+worlds+platonic+physical+mental&tbm=isch
>
> Howard
>
>
>
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