My cut and paste missed the author, Beverly Kent, *of Charles S. Peirce:
Logic and the Classification of the Sciences*. GR

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*Gary Richmond*
*Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
*Communication Studies*
*LaGuardia College of the City University of New York*
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On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Gary Richmond <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Lists,
>
> I'd add to this nice outline by Ben the only book length treatment of
> Peirce's classification which offers, as I recall (I'll check when I've
> returned to my NYC apartment by the middle of next week) at least a dozen
> versions, the final version called there the "perennial" version:
> Charles S. Peirce: Logic and the Classification of the Sciences
> McGill-Queens University Press
>  - January 1, 1987
> 
> Best,
> Gary R
>
>
> [image: Gary Richmond]
>
> *Gary Richmond*
> *Philosophy and Critical Thinking*
> *Communication Studies*
> *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York*
> *C 745*
> *718 482-5690 <718%20482-5690>*
>
> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Benjamin Udell <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>  Stan, Howard, Gary F., lists,
>>
>> Stan, the ordering of the special sciences that you provided, with which
>> I roughly agree for my part, is not quite the same as Peirce's. Moreover,
>> the ordering that Gary F. referenced was not one within the special
>> sciences (as Peirce called them) - physical, chemical, biological,
>> sociological, etc., but instead an ordering within a larger classification.
>> Here's a summary of Peirce's later views of the ordering of the sciences:
>>
>> A. Discovery sciences:
>>   1. (Pure) mathematics. Deduction about purely hypothetical objects.
>>   2. Cenoscopy, also called _*philosophia prima*_, also called
>> philosophy for short. Analysis, by phaneroscopic method, of positive
>> phenomena in general.
>>
>>
>>
>> * i. Phaneroscopy, also called phenomenology, also called categorics. ii.
>> Normative sciences (a. esthetics, b. ethics, c. logic (as formal
>> semiotic)). iii. Metaphysics (a. ontology, b. religious metaphysics, c.,
>> physical metaphysics). *   3. Idioscopy, also called the special
>> sciences (two wings: physical (efficient-causal) and mental (final-causal),
>> Peirce is unsure about whether physical or mental is prior and about
>> whether the order matters; anyway, orthogonally to the physical-mental
>> distinction, Peirce makes a three-way distinction into a. nomological
>> sciences (about the universal laws and elements of physical or mental
>> phenomena), b. classificatory sciences, c. descriptive sciences). Idioscopy
>> makes special experiments / experiences of special classes of positive
>> phenomena. The nomological / classificatory distinction to some extent
>> involves the ordering physical, chemical, biological, in Peirce's system at
>> that time.
>>
>> B. Review sciences, also called synthetic philosophy, also called 
>> _*philosophia
>> ultima*_. This attempts to build a philosophy of science on the basis of
>> results from the discovery sciences. Examples of this nature include
>> Humboldt's _Cosmos_, Comte's _Philosophie positive_, Spencer's _Synthetic
>> Philosophy_. The work of classifying the sciences belongs in this
>> department.
>>
>> C. Practical sciences, also called the arts.
>>
>> On Peirce's classifications in the later years, See:
>> Tommi Vehkavaara's chart http://people.uta.fi/~attove/peirce_systems3.PDF
>> Peirce's classification from the "Syllabus" (1903) 
>> http://web.archive.org/web/20111105121054/http://www.princeton.edu/~batke/peirce/cl_o_sci_03.htm
>>
>> My Wikipedia article on it, which contains many footnotes with links : 
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classification_of_the_sciences_%28Peirce%29
>>
>>
>> Peirce's earlier as well as later classification:
>> Tommi Vehkavaara's other chart http://www.uta.fi/~attove/peirce_syst.PDF
>>
>> Best, Ben
>>
>> On 12/7/2014 11:00 AM, Stanley N Salthe wrote:
>>
>> Howard --
>>
>>  HP:  12/6/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
>>
>> GF: Peirce saw the sciences as organized hierarchically, and
>> logic/semiotics as"higher" than any specialized science (such as physics or
>> psychology or biology), since all reasoning and inquiry is a form of
>> semiosis.
>>
>> HP: Not persuasive.
>>
>> GF: It wasn't supposed to be persuasive. It was supposed to be
>> descriptive of Peirce's view of the sciences. We already know that you view
>> them differently.
>>
>> SS:  If we understand the meaning of the Spencer-Comte-Peirce hierarchy
>> (a subsumptive hierarchy
>> {physics {chemistry {biology {sociology}}}}
>> I think it is impossible to be unpersuaded by it!
>>
>> Surely chemistry depends upon physical forces, while biology depends upon
>> chemistry!, while each more inner subclass adds more 'information' as it
>> harnesses the more outer classes to its requirements.
>> In what way is this "unpersuasive"
>>
>> STAN
>>
>> On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 9:38 AM, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
>>
>> Howard,
>>
>> It wasn't supposed to be persuasive. It was supposed to be descriptive of
>> Peirce's view of the sciences. We already know that you view them
>> differently.
>>
>> gary f.
>>
>> From: Howard Pattee
>> Sent: 6-Dec-14 8:24 PM
>>
>> At 09:54 AM 12/6/2014, Gary Fuhrman wrote:
>>
>> Peirce saw the sciences as organized hierarchically, and logic/semiotics
>> as"higher" than any specialized science (such as physics or psychology or
>> biology), since all reasoning and inquiry is a form of semiosis.
>>
>> HP: Not persuasive. See Penrose's 3 worlds
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=penrose+3+worlds+platonic+physical+mental&tbm=isch
>>
>> Howard
>>
>>
>>
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