Steven wrote:  "I believe that my intuition is correct. That is, he intends
it in the context of fallibilism and hence he is redeemed in my eye. I'll
post a series of quotes later in order to demonstrate my argument."

It would be exceedingly helpful for you to to that, Steven.

Best,

Gary

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On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 1:23 PM, Steven Ericsson-Zenith <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Indeed, hence my surprise. The standing question is the actual sense in
> which Peirce intended his comments. On further reading, I believe that my
> intuition is correct. That is, he intends it in the context of fallibilism
> and hence he is redeemed in my eye. I'll post a series of quotes later in
> order to demonstrate my argument.
>
> Steven
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 10:18 AM, John Collier <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>  Smolin has been recognized as a heavyweight in physics (and cosmology)
>> for some time. I haven't read this book, but the others I have read are
>> very carefully balanced.
>>
>>
>>
>> John
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] *On
>> Behalf Of *Steven Ericsson-Zenith
>> *Sent:* March 20, 2015 2:04 PM
>> *To:* Søren Brier
>> *Cc:* Jon Awbrey; Steven Ericsson-Zenith; Edwina Taborsky; Jerry LR
>> Chandler; Peirce List
>> *Subject:* [PEIRCE-L] Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics
>>
>>
>>
>> I responded to Soren. In fact, I mention Smolin in the post to which
>> Soren responded. I am well aware of Smolin's work - and I am surprised at
>> it. Since when has eminence held muster in science? :-)
>>
>>
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 2:46 AM, Søren Brier <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> Thanks. I just wanted to remind  Steven that an eminent modern physicist
>> found it possible to uphold his position while having a view close to
>> Peirce's.
>>
>>                       Søren
>>
>> -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
>> Fra: Jon Awbrey [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sendt: 19. marts 2015 15:32
>> Til: Søren Brier; Steven Ericsson-Zenith; Edwina Taborsky
>> Cc: Jerry LR Chandler; Peirce List
>> Emne: Re: A System Of Analytic Mechanics
>>
>> Re: Søren Brier
>> At: http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.science.philosophy.peirce/15878
>>
>> Søren, List,
>>
>> Smolin's 'Time Reborn' was the subject, or at least the instigation, of
>> much discussion here and there around the web a couple years ago.
>>  From a cursory search, I think it was Michael Shapiro who broached the
>> topic on the Peirce List, inciting discussions that went on for the rest of
>> the summer:
>>
>> https://list.iupui.edu/sympa/arc/peirce-l/2013-05/msg00028.html
>>
>> I recall blogging on it and adding a quote from Peirce in connection with
>> a discussion on a blog devoted to computational complexity and the theory
>> of computation:
>>
>> http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/2013/06/01/wherefore-aught/
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> On 3/19/2015 2:13 AM, Søren Brier wrote:
>> > Dear Steven
>> >
>> > Are you aware of the work of Unger and Smolin where they argue for the
>> evolution of laws?
>> > The Singular Universe....THE SINGULAR UNIVERSE AND THE REALITY OF TIME
>> > Cambridge University Press, November 30, 2014.
>> > Synopsis
>> > This is a book on the nature of time  and the basic laws of nature. We
>> argue for the inclusive reality of time as well as for the mutability of
>> the laws of nature.  We seek to breathe new life and meaning into natural
>> philosophy -- a form of reasoning that crosses the boundaries between
>> science and philosophy.
>> > The work should appeal to a broad educated readership as well as to
>> scientists and philosophers. It is not a popularization, but neither does
>> it use a technical vocabulary that would restrict it to specialized
>> readers. The subjects that it addresses are of paramount interest to people
>> in many disciplines outside cosmology and physics.
>> > In the twentieth century, physics and cosmology overturned the idea of
>> an unchanging background of time and space. In so doing, however, they
>> maintained the idea of an immutable framework of laws of nature. This
>> second idea must now also be attacked and replaced. What results is a new
>> picture of the agenda of physics and cosmology as well as of the methods of
>> fundamental science.
>> > The book develops four inter-related themes:
>> > 1) There is only one universe at a time. Our universe is not one of
>> many worlds. It has no copy or complete model, even in mathematics. The
>> current interest in multiverse cosmologies is based on fallacious reasoning.
>> > 2) Time is real, and indeed the only aspect of our description of
>> nature which is not emergent or approximate. The inclusive reality of time
>> has revolutionary implications for many of our conventional beliefs.
>> > 3) Everything evolves in this real time including laws of nature.
>> There is only a relative distinction between laws and the states of affairs
>> that they govern..
>> > 4)  Mathematics deals with the one real world. We need not imagine it
>> to be a shortcut to timeless truth about an immaterial reality (Platonism)
>> in order to make sense of its "unreasonable effectiveness" in science.
>> > We argue by systematic philosophical and scientific reasoning , as well
>> as by detailed examples, that these principles are the only way theoretical
>> cosmology can break out of its current crisis in a manner that is
>> scientific, i.e. results in falsifiable predictions for doable experiments.
>> >
>> > And Smolin's Time Reborn
>> > "What is time?
>> >
>> > It's the sort of question we rarely ask because it seems so obvious.
>> And yet, to a physicist, time is simply a human construct and an illusion.
>> If you could somehow get outside the universe and observe it from there,
>> you would see that every moment has always existed and always will. Lee
>> Smolin disagrees, and in Time Reborn he lays out the case why.
>> >
>> > Recent developments in physics and cosmology point toward the reality
>> of time and the openness of the future. Smolin's groundbreaking theory
>> postulates that physical laws can evolve over time and the future is not
>> yet determined. Newton's fundamental laws may not remain so fundamental."
>> > Smolin quotes Peirce several times in this book for the view that
>> different laws emerging in the course of the development of the universe
>> over time.
>> >
>> >                                             Søren
>> >
>>
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