Gary, List,
you are right Gary, but there is still a strange behavior in most of us
Peirce-listers... we read and study Peirce, but then we write and
understand was is written in a strict 'positivist' way. Since everything
is a sign and every sign has to be considered triadic... then of course
in "human instinct" there has to be more than ONLY knowledge... because
knowledge can not 'exist alone'...
I think, without having never studied this subject thoroughly, that
instinct is some how related to secondness, to a more (so to say)
'biological' aspect, and though to the "impossible", to "the real" in
Lacan, and so on...
And by the way, I am also aware that we are not completely aware, or
conscious, of all what we 'really' know...
and more, besides what we know and what we don't know that we know,
there is the unconscious (that also exists), and works, not always, in
favor of what we are able to think rationally.
All the best
Claudio
Gary Richmond escribió el 15/07/2015 a las 02:34 p.m.:
Claudio, list,
Claudio wrote: "I would say that instinct is not related to knowledge,
but abduction and habit are.
There is no 'good' abduction without knowledge...
"
I'm not certain that I agree with the first part of this statement,
viz., "that instinct is not related to knowledge," but that is a
complex issue which would take some considerable work to address
adequately (Manuel's snippet and my previous long Peircean quote, as
well as the passage below may suggest a path which such an inquiry
might take).
But I fully agree with the second part of your comment, viz. that
"there is no 'good' abduction without knowledge," what Peirce calls
"the well-prepared mind" making good guesses leading to, in the
following example, correct hypotheses in science (something not
dissimilar must surely be the case in art, architecture, etc., I'm
sure you'd agree).
. . . Yes; it must be confessed that if we knew that the impulse
to prefer one hypothesis to another really were analogous to the
instincts of birds and wasps, it would be foolish not to give it
play, within the bounds of reason; especially since we must
entertain some hypothesis, or else forego all further knowledge
than that which we have already gained by that very means. But is
it a fact that man possesses this magical faculty? Not, I reply,
to the extent of guessing right the first time, nor perhaps the
second; but /that the well-prepared mind has wonderfully soon
guessed each secret of nature is historical truth. All the
theories of science have been so obtained /[emphasis added].
But may they not have come fortuitously, or by some such
modification of chance as the Darwinian supposes? I answer that
three or four independent methods of computation show that it
would be ridiculous to suppose our science to have so come to
pass. [. . .] There is a reason, an interpretation, a logic, in
the course of scientific advance, and this indisputably proves to
him who has perceptions of rational or significant relations, that
man's mind must have been attuned to the truth of things in order
to discover what he has discovered. It is the very bedrock of
logical truth. CP 6.476
Best,
Gary
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