Thanks Gary. Much appreciated. Peirce needs to be released from captivity and proposed as a paradigmatic figure for the move from a binary to a triadic world.
Books http://buff.ly/15GfdqU Art: http://buff.ly/1wXAxbl Gifts: http://buff.ly/1wXADj3 On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 12:20 PM, Gary Richmond <[email protected]> wrote: > Stephen, List, > > I have taken the liberty of cutting and pasting Soren's post which, I > agree, deserves broader distribution. While the post is itself not > specifically Peirce-related, in the context of Soren's work in this area, > one can certainly see the deep connections. > > I have changed the subject line, using Soren's good, final question in the > post. Thanks for pointing to it, Stephen. > > Best, > > Gary R > > Dear Dr. Bhakti Niskama Shanta > > > > It is well-known that the dominant form of science in the world today is > established in Europe and later in the US and therefore based on the > tradition from the Greek philosophers, which are famous for starting their > Deliberation > on the Cosmos first and the divine later. This was developed further with > the birth of the empirical science from the renaissance and on with Galilei > and in the Enlightenment science released itself from the philosophical > influence and political power of the Catholic church. Modernity is > characterized by a spilt between religion, science, art, money and > politics. Thus we no longer have a center in our democratic society based > on a divine Pharaoh, Kaiser, sultan, king og Rajah that has the religious, > political, economic, juridical and violence power concentrated in one > person as the center of like the Dalai Lama before he denounced his > political power and encouraged democracy. Niklas Luhmann truth, love, > power, money for symbolic generalized media of communication that are > autopoietic self-organized and therefore closed to each other but compete > about who should have most influence on the cultural and social idea of > rationality. > > > > Democracy is not a part of the Vedic teaching at all. It is interesting to > see how Dalai Lama and Maharishi Mahesh Yogi dealt with this. Both of them > let the social organization to the political and economic forces in > democracy and established the spiritual dimension in its own autocratic > organization. They also let science develop in its own system. Even the > catholic church has recognized evolution (and ecology)as the scientific > view of the living world as well as the big bang cosmogony. Now we know > that theories of science do not represent the only form of knowledge in > society and certainly not the final and absolute truth, which you seem to > claim for your philosophical-religious system. The spiritual truth you > speak about is something else than what true science seek. The deep problem > is how we deal with these different types of knowledge because your idea of > truth is not the scientific one. > > > > Anyway the Vedic view of these things has to prove itself and the nation > India built upon this philosophical-theological culture and being the > biggest democracy on earth still needs to prove itself as having a superior > knowledge that can produce a superior culture. But maybe you thing this is > only possible by going back to the pre-democratic structure of culture? We > see movement like that in Russia with the orthodox church with Putin as a > king of new Czar and in Islamic State establishing the old sultan reign. > The two attempt appear very violent and not very productive and beneficial > for the common man. So > > can we encompass spirituality, democracy and science in one culture, do > you think? > > > > Warmest > > > Søren Brier > > [image: Gary Richmond] > > *Gary Richmond* > *Philosophy and Critical Thinking* > *Communication Studies* > *LaGuardia College of the City University of New York* > *C 745* > *718 482-5690 <718%20482-5690>* > > On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 9:14 AM, Stephen C. Rose <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> This is a reply I wrote to Soren's note to a Google group I do not belong >> to. I hope he posts it here as it is interesting. >> Soren Brier wrote“spirituality, democracy and science in one culture,” >> >> These are keywords of an emerging universal and global culture. The >> binary activities of Putin and ISIS and elements within democratic >> societies are gradually doomed to give way to a more reasoned approach. The >> underlying reason for this transition is the accelerating movement toward >> what Peirce offered as the linchpins of an evolutionary agapistic reality: >> a sense of fallibility and a sense of continuity contributing to the >> gradual decline of religion and its replacement by individual universal >> spirituality and mutual respect. >> >> >> ----------------------------- >> PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON >> PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to >> [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L >> but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the >> BODY of the message. More at >> http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to > [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L > but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the > BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm > . > > > > > >
----------------------------- PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to [email protected] . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but to [email protected] with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of the message. More at http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm .
