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http://web.archive.org/web/20060207164542/http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/2004-December/002201.html [Inquiry] Re: Determination Jon Awbrey jawbrey at att.net Sat Dec 25 21:18:04 CST 2004 o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o DET. Note 5 o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o | Accurate writers have apparently made a distinction | between the 'definite' and the 'determinate'. A subject | is 'determinate' in respect to any character which inheres | in it or is (universally and affirmatively) predicated of | it, as well as in respect to the negative of such character, | these being the very same respect. In all other respects it | is 'indeterminate'. The 'definite' shall be defined presently. | | A sign (under which designation I place every kind of thought, | and not alone external signs), that is in any respect objectively | indeterminate (i.e., whose object is undetermined by the sign itself) | is objectively 'general' in so far as it extends to the interpreter | the privilege of carrying its determination further. 'Example': | "Man is mortal." To the question, What man? the reply is that the | proposition explicitly leaves it to you to apply its assertion to | what man or men you will. | | A sign that is objectively indeterminate in any respect | is objectively 'vague' in so far as it reserves further | determination to be made in some other conceivable sign, | or at least does not appoint the interpreter as its deputy | in this office. 'Example': "A man whom I could mention seems | to be a little conceited." The 'suggestion' here is that the | man in view is the person addressed; but the utterer does not | authorize such an interpretation or 'any' other application of | what she says. She can still say, if she likes, that she does | 'not' mean the person addressed. Every utterance naturally | leaves the right of further exposition in the utterer; and | therefore, in so far as a sign is indeterminate, it is vague, | unless it is expressly or by a well-understood convention | rendered general. | | C.S. Peirce, 'Collected Papers', CP 5.447 o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o inquiry e-lab: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o~~~~~~~~~o -- academia: http://independent.academia.edu/JonAwbrey my word press blog: http://inquiryintoinquiry.com/ inquiry list: http://stderr.org/pipermail/inquiry/ isw: http://intersci.ss.uci.edu/wiki/index.php/JLA oeiswiki: http://www.oeis.org/wiki/User:Jon_Awbrey facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/JonnyCache
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