Dear Jerry and list
Yes, how we through Peirce’s theory can reconcile the scientific knowledge we
have gathered about material and mental causality.
Look forward to read your paper when it is ready.
Søren
From: Jerry LR Chandler [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 21. oktober 2016 17:20
To: Peirce List
Cc: Søren Brier
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
Soren:
Would it be fair to say that you seek to understand how CSP’s writings relate
to scientific causality?
I think it is fair to ask if Jon’s views on engineering wrt CSP writings are
typical of modern engineering disciplines, such as chemical engineering and
molecular-biological engineering in which specific causal processes must be
arranged from the body of scientific information (chemical / biological)
available. Within the professions, these are referred to a “scale-up”
problems. Or, otherwise as “from the lab-bench to production”.
BTW, Soren, on a personal note and in reference to an earlier exchange here
(2014?) on the role of electricity in bio-cybernetics / biosemiotics, I have
just finished writing a paper -An Introduction to the Foundations of Chemical
Information Theory. Tarski – Lesniewski Logical Structures and the Organization
of Natural Sorts and Kinds.
Indirectly, it draws on certain aspects of CSP logic, as well as the views of
M. Malatesta’s on meta-languages. But, it focuses the meaning of quanta of
electricity and the relations to symmetry. It will be submitted for
publication after colleagues have provided comments.
Cheers
Jerry
On Oct 21, 2016, at 5:05 AM, Søren Brier <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
wrote:
Jeff. List
My problem – probably arising from my scientific background as a biologist – is
that I still do not see how Peirce explains in cosmogonical terms how we get
from Peirce semiotic objective idealism with the universe as a grand argument
to a physical as well as chemical theory of matter. How do we get from the
three universes to the world we are in today, with its physically real problem
of global warming?
Best
Søren
From: Jerry Rhee [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: 21. oktober 2016 01:17
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Jon Alan Schmidt; Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
Soren, list:
I don’t see why you’re having problems with seeing how this is possible without
a recognition of the independent reality of embodied conscious subjects living
in language and culture.
Could you not simply look to the best example that embodies this integration of
phaneroscopic metaphysics that is combined with ethics, esthetics, logic; that
is combined with tychism, ananchism, agapism (together, synechism); which
supports the triadic process of semiotic through pragmaticism?
Best,
Jerry R
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Søren Brier
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Jon and list
Difficult question. The choice of phenomenology and to combine it with pure
mathematics is in itself metaphysical. Out of this combination develops
phaneroscopic metaphysics, which develop worlds and which is again combined
with ethic, aesthetics and logic as semiotics. This is again combined with
Tychism, synechism and agapism, which are partly independent of the three
categories but supports the development of the triadic process semiotics, and
his pragmaticism, from which a theory of meaning of a sign is developed. But I
still have problems in seeing how this is possible without a recognition of the
independent reality of embodied conscious subjects living in language and
culture.
Søren
From: Jon Alan Schmidt
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: 20. oktober 2016 18:22
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
Søren, List:
Are you saying that the Categories are phaneroscopic, while the Universes are
metaphysical?
Thanks,
Jon
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:07 AM, Søren Brier
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I suggest that in a phaneroscopic process ontology the categories will develop
into worlds.
Søren
From: Jon Alan Schmidt
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: 20. oktober 2016 15:34
To: Søren Brier
Cc: Peirce-L
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Re: Universes and Categories (was Peirce's Cosmology)
Søren, List:
SB: I think it is fair to say that the categories do form three distinct
different universes.
Just to clarify--are you saying that the categories and the universes are the
same?
Thanks,
Jon
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