Dear list:

I should narrow down my question:

For what reasons should a scientist, who believes in the realness of
natural laws, also value that of absolute chance?  Are there any examples?

Best,
Jerry R

On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:38 AM, Jerry Rhee <[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear John, list:
>
> Would anyone care to share their thoughts on what is meant by Absolute
> Chance?
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Jerry R
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2016 at 11:31 AM, Clark Goble <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> On Dec 5, 2016, at 7:05 AM, John F Sowa <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> On 11/29/2016 2:57 PM, Clark Goble wrote:
>>
>> Treating thirdness as something real in the universe independent
>> of what any particular person thinks about it is key.
>>
>>
>> That is not a new point.  Scientists have always assumed that the
>> laws of nature are "really real".
>>
>>
>> It’s a major point but not an universal one. Especially among physicists
>> Feynman’s loose adoption of a kind of instrumentalism was influential. So
>> it wasn’t just Mach or certain aspects of the positivists. Of course most
>> physicists who haven’t studied any philosophy end up with an incoherent
>> mess of views on the nature of physical laws. Sometimes a realist,
>> sometimes an idealist, sometimes a Feynman like denial that anything
>> matters but calculating. At least in my experience with physicists.
>> (Chemists are somewhat different due to a more practical field)
>>
>> However I think what Peirce did differently was in thinking of the laws
>> of physics in terms of thirdness. I don’t think most others - even those
>> who were realists about law - put them in quite that formulation. (If only
>> because few thought of things in those terms)
>>
>>
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