Stephen,

 

Your “challenge” was posted to the list, but I’m guessing it was aimed mainly 
at me, so here’s my answer.

 

I’m assuming that the John Sowa post you refer to is the one linked to a Susan 
Haack article. Yes, I find it completely comprehensible. Not being an academic 
philosopher myself, I can’t comment on the accuracy of what Haack (and John) 
seem to be saying about the current state of the discipline; I just don’t know 
enough about it. But the quote from Peirce at the end of it is perfectly clear 
to me.

 

Does that help me to see any connection between your post and Lowell 1.6? No, 
not at all. I don’t see any specific connection between Lowell 1.6 and John’s 
post, and I don’t think he intended one, or he would have used the Lowell 1.6 
subject line. Maybe you didn’t intend such a specific connection either — but 
your subject line and the first sentence of your post certainly give the 
impression that you were responding to Lowell 1.6 and not making an 
off-the-cuff general comment about Peirce’s philosophy.

 

By the way, it’s not considered good netiquette to copy a private message to a 
public list.

 

If you find it offensive to be asked (offlist) for an explanation, I’ll refrain 
from doing that in the future. So I’ve learned a moral lesson, though I haven’t 
learned anything about Peirce from this exchange.

 

Gary f.

 

From: Stephen C. Rose [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: 4-Oct-17 10:33
To: Gary Fuhrman <[email protected]>; Peirce List <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 1.6

 

This was sent to me and not to the list but I think either Deely or Deacon 
would have understood me without any explanation. Therefore I am issuing a 
simple challenge. If the post you find baffling is that baffling and John 
Sowa's post which follows it is completely comprehensible, I am entirely in 
agreement with it. Does that help? 

 

I have said in successive posts that Peirce is a moral philosopher. That is 
obvious. I have worked for a few years now on the premise that philosophy as an 
academic exercise is largely irrelevant. Susan, quoted by John, says this quite 
damningly. I am in the same camp. I assume you are there also. 

 

As I have stated more than once, writing to this forum has been frustrating. I 
divide Peirce into a large area I do not comprehend (the mathematical and 
categorical) and a smaller one that I feel inspires a post-Aristotelian world. 
I will continue on this path. But if my posts simply baffle I will save you 
time and me frustration by merely reading and not confusing you and others.

 

 

amazon.com/author/stephenrose <http://amazon.com/author/stephenrose> 

 

On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 10:16 AM, <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]> > wrote:

Hola Stephen,

I think this is your most baffling post yet. I read it over three times and 
still fail to see any connection between any part of what you’ve said and what 
Peirce says in 1.6. I know you don’t like explaining what you say, but if you 
don’t try in this case, I’m afraid I can make no sense of it at all!

 gary

 

From: Stephen C. Rose [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> 
] 
Sent: 4-Oct-17 09:49
To: Gary Fuhrman <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >
Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 1.6

Again we have Peirce in a teleological mode but not telling us he is conflating 
now with some time in the future. Maybe he does. His emphasis on fact is to 
denouement -- ultimate outcomes. It would be like saying people are not 
populating their homes with as many guns as once was the case, but that gun 
purchases rise among the gun-inclined.  This is true. But ultimately it might 
be more logical not to allow hurt and harm to be possible. Continuity is the 
route. Fallibility is the condition. Logic is the end.

amazon.com/author/stephenrose <http://amazon.com/author/stephenrose> 

 

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