Daniel: Interesting.
My own view is that language is a biological necessity in our
species since the fact that we do not store our knowledge genetically
but socially means that we must develop a symbolic referential system
for that knowledge base, i.e., language.
Language, as a symbolic storage system for knowledge enables our
species to adapt and change that knowledge very rapidly. Therefore,
instead of relying on the biological system to adapt our physical
existence, we use a technological method to provide us with..tools,
shelter and so on.
But as to how language began - this is indeed one of the great
questions - The key is the movement to the symbol [rather than the
icon/index].
Wilson is certainly an esteemed reference!
Edwina Taborsky
On Sat 09/12/17 3:14 PM , "Everett, Daniel" [email protected]
sent:
I discuss Peirce’s implicit prediction of the order of language
evolution (somewhat nonstandard view of indexes perhaps), in a TEDx
talk given recently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFxg5vkaPgk [1]
And in this recent book, for a general audience:
https://www.amazon.com/How-Language-Began-Humanitys-Invention/dp/0871407957
[2]
Dan
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On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:24 AM, Stephen C. Rose wrote:
Shekdrake mentions Peirce in his banned TED talk but pm;y in
passing. I feel Peirce and Wittgenstein were saying much the same
thing in very different ways. Nietzsche can probably be included in
terms of 20th-century influence.
amazon.com/author/stephenrose [5]
On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 6:55 AM, Ben Novak wrote:
Dear Jon, Stephen:
I would like to propose another question, related to the ones
raised by Jon, for the List's consideration; namely:
What is the relation of Peirce's ideas, insights, or procedures to
the work of other twentieth century philosophers and philosophic
questions--whether or not there is evidence of direct contact?
For example, there has been significant discussion on various
threads of the concept of nothing, and existence, among others. I
have often felt that these discussions are directly relevant to much
of the work of twentieth century existentialists. I am particularly
interested in Heidegger, and feel that there are many concepts of
Heidegger that would be enriched by meshing them with Pierce, and
vice versa.
For example, I think that discussion of the thought of Peirce in
relation to the thought of many other, later philosophers, might
provide the basis of a very fertile synthesis of Continental and
American philosophy.
From another angle, there are many philosophers attempting to deal
with the results of quantum physics who are dealing with ideas that
could be much clarified by Peirce's thinking. Attached is a pdf of a
book review of mine in the Review of Metaphysics reviewing Peter J.
Lewis, Quantum Ontology: A Guide to the Metaphysics of Quantum
Mechanics, in which I attempt to convey the challenge to philosophers
raised by Lewis. In that review I mention Bernard d'Espagnat's Quantum
Physics and Philosophy, which in my view raises a host of issues that
Peirce's thinking would deal with differently.
In other words, I would like to see some discussion by participants
on this thread of other disciplines, philosophers, and philosophies
that are wrestling with problems or ideas that Peirce dealt with,
from the perspective of helping others by showing how Peirce's
thought could clarify or extend what they are dealing with.
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bar of Mozart will have ceased to be—though possibly a colored
canvas and a sheet of notes may remain—because the last eye and the
last ear accessible to their message will have gone." Oswald Spengler
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Stephen C. Rose wrote:
I shall be interested. I amend my widely discredited remark. I
am sure there was some dissing of Brent but I cannot place it. I did
find a few positive notes that related to a quote from Benjamin on
page 19 professing the existence of the deity. Neither of the two
folks involved has been here of late. It might be interesting if some
who read here have questions to see if we could move past the sort of
exegetical questions that arise from analyzing passages.
amazon.com/author/stephenrose [10]
On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 6:11 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:
Stephen, List:
These are outstanding questions, in my view worthy of their own
thread. I may offer a few answers after some "chewing" on my own.
Regards,
Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer,
Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt [12] - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt
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On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 4:32 PM, Stephen C. Rose wrote:
These are some issues we might chew on.
Does Pierce's influence extend beyond the academy?
Did Peirce see ethics and aesthetics as essential to triadic
thinking? Did he intend his philosophy to have wide influence beyond
the scientific community?
Are there any public intellectuals who have depended on Peirce.
In what sense, if any, was Peirce critical of "binary thinking?
When Peirce compared himself to Aristotle was he looking to have
universal influence? Does he?
How did Peirce wish his thinking to evolve? Or did he?
Given the fact that the Brent bio. seems sidely discredited, is a
new biography likely?
amazon.com/author/stephenrose [15]
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