Helmut, List: There are two accounts of the Holy Family in the Bible. Matthew includes the flight to Egypt to escape Herod after the visit of the Magi, which is presumably what the artist who portrayed them as refugees had in mind. Luke omits that particular episode.
FYI, www.biblegateway.com is a handy site for looking up Bible passages, especially since it includes various English versions and numerous other languages. Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Professional Engineer, Amateur Philosopher, Lutheran Layman www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Helmut Raulien <[email protected]> wrote: > > Uh! Ive looked it up, and apologize. I am embarassed, why did I answer > before looking it up? Now I dont see the point in the nativity picture > anymore, an agree with Gary not to talk about it anymore. Sorry again, > Wendy, happy new year! > Wendy, > but Mary, knowing she was pregnant, could not know whether somebody she > had told this might have told it to Herodes´ spies? I dont know, maybe you > are right, I just have to trust somebody about this, and please forgive me, > I (at the time, hypothetically) rather trust the pope than you. I have not > looked the matter up in the bible, though. > Best, > Helmut > 30. Dezember 2017 um 21:35 Uhr > *Von:* "Wendy Wheeler" <[email protected]> > Helmut, > > The reason they travelled was as I’ve stated - as given in the gospel of > Luke. Had they stayed at home, there would have been no slaying of the > first born by Herod since the latter, according to Matthew, heard of the > birth in Bethlehem from the three wise men who came to witness it. > > I’m not concerned with the Pope’s comparison. > > Wendy > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 30 Dec 2017, at 20:09, Helmut Raulien <[email protected]> wrote: > > Wendy, > if they had stayed home, they would have had their first born slain. If > this does not make them refugees, discuss it with the pope, who also > compared them with the contemporary refugees. > Best, > Helmut > 30. Dezember 2017 um 20:57 Uhr > *Von:* "Wendy Wheeler" <[email protected]> > Dear Helmut (and list), > > I’ve come to this discussion both late and rather incompletely. I haven’t > read every contribution closely. Can I point out, though, and in case > nobody else has, that the Holy Family were not refugees. They were > travelling to Joseph’s birthplace in obedience to the requirements of the > Roman census. They returned home afterwards. The Trondheim Nativity scene > under discussion here thus looks like an iconic sign used to mislead. > > Best wishes, > > Wendy Wheeler > > Sent from my iPhone > >
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