List,

 

Peirce's attempt to render the 'Firstness of Secondness' (i.e. pure
Secondness) comprehensible deals mostly with the difficulty of prescinding
it from the experience of willing, separating it from the Thirdness involved
in that experience. I think Peirce may be overstating the case when he says
that "he who wills is conscious of doing so, in the sense of representing to
himself that he does so": when a cat is hunting a mouse, for instance, I
would attribute to the cat a will or even intention to catch the mouse, but
doubt that the cat is representing to himself that he does so. But perhaps
that's a psychological point of view which would not apply to a strictly
logical view of the experience, since logic is a matter of self-control,
which indeed must imply some kind of self-representation. 

 

Somewhat more difficult to follow is Peirce's attempt to contrast actuality
(as Secondness) with quality (as Firstness). His remarks on Hegel's "neglect
of Secondness" seem paradoxical, based as they are on the premiss that "the
word "existence" names, as if it were an abstract possibility, that which is
precisely the not having any being in abstract possibility." However, I
think this does follow from Peirce's earlier statement (CP 1.527) that
matter "has no being at all except the being a subject of qualities. This
relation of really having qualities constitutes its existence." Certainly
it's difficult to draw the line here between logic and metaphysics. Anyway,
this whole paragraph demonstrates how hard it is to make "brute" Secondness
intelligible. Maybe that's why Zen masters used to get it across to their
students by shouting at them or whacking them with a stick.

 

Gary f.

 

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Subject: [PEIRCE-L] Lowell Lecture 3.10

 

Continuing from Lowell Lecture 3.9,
https://fromthepage.com/jeffdown1/c-s-peirce-manuscripts/ms-464-465-1903-low
ell-lecture-iii-3rd-draught/display/13922 (cf CP 1.532):

 

As to Secondness, I have said that our only direct knowledge of it is in
Willing and in the experience of a Perception. It is in Willing that the
Secondness comes out most strongly. But it is not pure Secondness. For, in
the first place, he who wills has a Purpose; and that idea of purpose makes
the act appear as a Means to an end. Now the word Means is almost an exact
synonym to the word third. It certainly involves Thirdness. Moreover, he who
wills is conscious of doing so, in the sense of representing to himself that
he does so. But representation is precisely genuine Thirdness. You must
conceive an instantaneous Consciousness that is instantly and totally
forgotten and an effort without  purpose. It is a hopeless undertaking to
try to realize what consciousness would be without the element of
representation. It would be like unexpectedly hearing a great explosion of
nitroglycerine before one had recovered oneself and merely had the sense of
the breaking off of the quiet. Perhaps it might not be far from what
ordinary common sense conceives to take place when one billiard ball caroms
on another. One ball "acts" on the other; that is, it makes an exertion
minus the element of representation. We may say with some approach to
accuracy that the general Firstness of all true Secondness is Existence,
though this term more particularly applies to Secondness in so far as it is
an element of the reacting First and Second. If we mean Secondness as it is
an element of the occurrence, the Firstness of it is Actuality. But
actuality and existence are words expressing the same idea in different
applications. Secondness, strictly speaking, is just when and where it takes
place, and has no other being; and therefore different Secondnesses,
strictly speaking, have in themselves no quality in common. Accordingly
existence, or the universal Firstness of all Secondness, is really not a
quality at all. An actual dollar to your credit in the bank does not differ
in any respect from a possible imaginary dollar. For if it did, the
imaginary dollar could be imagined to be changed in that respect, so as to
agree with the actual dollar. We thus see that actuality is not a quality,
or mere mode of feeling. Hence Hegel, whose neglect of Secondness was due
chiefly [to] his not recognizing any other mode of being than Existence,-
and what he calls Existenz is a special variety of it merely,- regarded Pure
Being as pretty much the same as Nothing. It is true that the word
"existence" names, as if it were an abstract possibility, that which is
precisely the not having any being in abstract possibility; and this
circumstance, when you look upon existence as the only being, seems to make
existence all but the same as nothing. 

 

http://gnusystems.ca/Lowell3.htm }{ Peirce's Lowell Lectures of 1903

 

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