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 John - exactly, I fully agree - and nicely said. AND in addition,
all these processes are semiosic and involve Mind.

        Edwina
 On Sun 18/02/18 10:24 AM , John F Sowa s...@bestweb.net sent:
 On 2/18/2018 7:40 AM, Stephen Jarosek wrote: 
 > As far as the silicon molecule is concerned, the stone has no
context  
 > that is relevant to it. The silicon molecule receives no cue from
the  
 > stone as to what its properties should be. 
 That is not true.  A silicon atom behaves in very different ways in 
 different molecules.  In minerals, it is in some molecule, such as 
 silicon dioxide.  But SiO2 may combine in more complex molecules, 
 such as aluminum silicate.  And those molecules are affected by the 
 crystals, glasses, and surface interactions that affect the rock as 
 a whole.  Heat, pressure, tension, torsion, and chemical processes 
 are transmitted to, from, and through every molecule in the rock. 
 > The stone is not a system, but an agglomeration of disconnected
minerals. 
 No!!!  The concept of a system is just an abstraction from artifacts

 that humans design.  For inorganic matter, even a single rock is a 
 complex system.  Weather, volcanoes, earthquakes, stars, galaxies, 
 supernovas, black holes, and the Big Bang are far more complex. 
 For organic matter, the processes are even complex and organized
than 
 any human can conceive. 
 And there is a continuum:  Some inorganic processes somehow evolved 
 into those organic processes.  The inorganic processes that generate

 the earth's weather are extremely complex.  And the weather affects 
 and is affected by all the organic processes on earth.  And the
earth 
 is just one insignificant rocky planet in a run-of-the-mill galaxy 
 in one corner of an immensely complex cosmos. 
 John 
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