On 11/1/2018 12:10 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt wrote:
Just curious, why do you prefer Predicate and Proposition to the
more general Rheme and Dicisign?
There are two important audiences:
1. Peirce scholars who are doing the detailed textual analysis to
determine as exactly as possible what Peirce meant at every
stage of his career.
2. The rest of the world.
I was not addressing Peirce scholars. Their work is important,
and I don't deny that. But they will get zero support (funding)
and attention (readers) unless and until the world is aware of
Peirce's work and its value. I believe that it's essential
to bring Peirce to the attention of *everybody* who uses signs.
Even at APA conferences, discussions of Peirce are limited to sessions
that only Peirce scholars attend. One obstacle is Peirce's obscure
terminology -- for which the scholarly term is rebarbative.
The words 'predicate' and 'proposition' are synonyms for 'rheme'
and 'dicisign' -- Peirce himself used them that way. I challenge
anybody to find an example for which rheme and dicisign have a
more general meaning than predicate and proposition.
I think that Qualisign/Sinsign/Legisign is more appropriate
Those are fine words to use in an article addressed to Peirce
scholars. But the pair token/type is widely known and used
by people who have no idea where it comes from. Those people
are happy to hear that mark/token/type comes from Peirce, but
the word 'tone' seems to be too narrow. And you could never get
them to remember any one of the words Qualisign/Sinsign/Legisign.
Jerry C.: Sheriff's similar table would indeed seem to qualify
as another (and earlier) "complete schema for addressing all nine
terms of the triple triad in a coherent narrative." Do you agree?
If not, why not?
I certainly agree that Sheriff's 150-page book is a very good
introduction for anybody who wants to study Peirce's writings.
But I wrote signs.pdf as a 12-page introduction for people who
need words to use in their own speaking and writing.
No logician would ever use the words 'rheme' or 'dicisign' instead
of 'predicate' and 'proposition'. Linguists commonly use the words
'token' and 'type'. They could be persuaded to adopt 'mark'.
But qualisign/sinsign/legisign doesn't have a prayer of a chance
of a snowball in hell.
John
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