Gary, List, Well, this is nice meat for a semioticean. How is such a misunderstanding possible?
For me the sliver pertains to John and the girder to JAS. It is JAS who on the one hand demands literal quotes (which belongs to text exegesis) but on the other avoids the meat (i.e. doing semiotics as a science). And on top of that for himself leaves room to divert: Again, it should go without saying for all my posts (including this one) that they are expressions of my personal opinions based on my interpretations of his writings. But denies it to others to have their interpretation of Peirce's thought. Auke > Op 25 april 2020 om 4:35 schreef Gary Richmond <gary.richm...@gmail.com>: > > Auke, List, > > Auke wrote: I got flabbergasted reading JAS response to John. > > GR: Yes, seeing John's self-contradictions spelled out was pretty > astonishing, and revealing, to me as well. They've been pointed out before; > I've done so myself on-list and off-list, apparently to no avail. > > Auke: It proves possible to tenaciously stick to the authoritarian method > in order to uphold one's own a priori principles. But only at the price of > disregarding or disqualifying a lot of what has been written by the authority. > > GR: Indeed, John has certainly demonstrated this the last couple of > years. It always surprises -- nay, shocks -- me. The double standard is > patent. > > Auke: As my mother used to say: One sees the sliver in the eye of the > other, but not the girder in ones own eye. > > GR: My mother used to say this too. It was, of course, Jesus who first > said it (see: Matthew 7:3-5; Luke 6:42). It's certainly apt here. Luke's > version: > > > > > > Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out > > the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam > > that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of > > thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is > > in thy brother's eye. > > > > > > Auke: That's the moment dialogue gets a nasty taste. > > GR: I agree that such obvious hypocrisy is a nasty practice. As list > moderator, I'm writing this to hopefully nip it in the bud. We've been > through this sort thing here before and even rather recently (last year). > This kind of double-standard is truly appalling and, as I've argued herel, > completely counter to forum culture. > > Best, > > Gary Richmond (writing as list moderator) > > > > "Time is not a renewable resource." gnox > > > > Gary Richmond > Philosophy and Critical Thinking > Communication Studies > LaGuardia College of the City University of New York > > > > > > > > > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > Virus-free. www.avg.com > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 4:53 AM < a.bree...@chello.nl > mailto:a.bree...@chello.nl > wrote: > > > > > > > > List, > > > > I got flabbergasted reading JAS response to John. > > > > > > It proves possible to tenaciously stick to the authoritarian method > > in order to uphold one's own a priori principles. > > > > But only at the price of disregarding or disqualifying a lot of > > what has been written by the authority. > > > > > > As my mother used to say: One sees the sliver in the eye of the > > other, but not the girder in ones own eye. > > > > That's the moment dialogue gets a nasty taste. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Auke > > > > > > > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > Virus-free. www.avg.com > http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail > > ----------------------------- > PEIRCE-L subscribers: Click on "Reply List" or "Reply All" to REPLY ON > PEIRCE-L to this message. PEIRCE-L posts should go to peirce-L@list.iupui.edu > . To UNSUBSCRIBE, send a message not to PEIRCE-L but to l...@list.iupui.edu > with the line "UNSubscribe PEIRCE-L" in the BODY of the message. More at > http://www.cspeirce.com/peirce-l/peirce-l.htm . > > > > >
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