Robert and Jon,
I was browsing through and deleting some old
email, and I came across the points quoted below.  I also remember that
Jon claimed that Peirce's word 'classificatory' for normative science made
it sound trivial.
But there are only three  kinds of science: (1)
mathematical, (2) classificatory. and (3) some combination of #1 and #2 in
various proportions.  Physics, after Galileo and Newton, became highly
mathematical, but it has always depended on classification for its choice
of hypotheses.  Chemistry began as the classificatory science of alchemy,
but it became more and more mathematical as it used physics to interpret
and develop its study of the phenomena.  And biology was almost purely
classificatory until the late 20th century.
As for phaneroscopy,
Peirce derived his semeiotic by applying mathematics to the analysis of
experiences in the phaneron.  (See R602, Photometric Researches, and the
sections of CP vol. 1 which the editors labeled 'Phenomenology'.) 

Pure mathematics (which includes mathematical logic) is the only
science that is purely mathematical.  But mathematics in practice depends
on the classificatory sciences for the choice of various hypotheses to
study.
As for phaneroscopy, Peirce derived his semeiotic by applying
mathematics to the analysis of experiences in the phaneron.  (See R602,
Photometric Researches, and the sections of CP vol. 1, which the editors
 labeled 'Phenomenology'.)   That is why I used the term "formal
semeiotic" for the methods Peirce used to derive his categories. 
And I agree that mathematical category theory is a powerful method for
analyzing the structure.  I believe that it makes a strong case for the
label "formal".
The next step after deriving formal
semeiotic is to use it to classify the open-ended variety of phenomena
labeled aesthetics, ethics, and rhetoric -- essentially every book on
those subjects from Aristotle to the present.   All the work on
government and legal matters combines ethics and rhetoric with some logic
(mostly limited to Aristotle's version).  All that work is
classificatory, and it's by no means
trivial.
John
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RM> Thank you very
much John for these texts I did not ... I
could have known the R602 since I had access to microfilmed manuscripts,
 but at the time, I was mainly interested in sign classifications and I
did not think that this ms could contain such assertions . I
particularly remember this sentence: "Phaneroscopic research requires a
previous study of mathematics.  The type of mathematics depends on the
application,
 and there is no limit on the amount and depth of mathematics that may
be needed" that I have had the opportunity to show to all those who will
 tell me that it does not have the ability to access the elementary
definitions of category theory ... "Scientific research is a fighting
sport".--------------------------JFS>  Your summary of the issues is very
good, and I strongly
agree with the need for examples.
In a search for examples, I went
back to _Photometric Researches_, which I believe is essential for
understanding the development of Peirce's philosophy.  It's not an
accident that it was published in 1878, the same year in which "How
to make our ideas clear" was published in _Popular Science Monthly_. 
(Peirce met the editor of that magazine when they were both in Sicily,
observing the solar eclipse.)
The title of Chapter 1 is "The
sensation of
light."  See http://jfsowa.com/peirce/PRexcerpts.pdf .
On page
2, he wrote "Light considered purely as something in the external
world may be called _noumenal light_.  Light considered as an appearance,
and as a function of the sensation, such that it is measured by the
convention just mentioned, may be termed _phenomenal light_.  Photometry
generally concerns phenomenal light..."
Just reading a few
pages (my PRexperts, for example) is enough to show how deeply Peirce's
phaneroscopy is grounded in his scientific and engineering research.  It's
also important to compare that research with R602, which was written after
his 1903  classification of the sciences.  See
http://jfsowa.com/peirce/r602.htm : 

p 12> But preliminary to normative science, which is essentially
classificatory, — stop to
take that well in, I beg you, gentle
reader, there should be a nomological science, which shall make
out all the different indecomposable elements which enter into
everything that is conceivably possible, discriminates them with care,
and shows how they can be varied and combined.  This science I hesitate
to call phenomenology after Hegal, for fear of marring his peculiar
conception of it; and therefore, though I think it is essentially the
same thing under a somewhat different aspect, I will name
phaneroscopy.



p 13> It is the science of the different elementary constituents of all
ideas.
Its material [m13] is, of course, universal
experience, — experience I
mean of the fanciful and the abstract, as well as of the concrete and
real.  Yet to suppose that in such experience the elements were to be
found already separate would be to suppose the unimaginable and
selfcontradictory.  They must be separated by a process of thought that
cannot be summoned up Hegel-wise on demand.  They must be picked out of
the fragments that necessary reasonings scatter; and therefore it is
that phaneroscopic research requires a previous study of mathematics.


Observation from p, 12:  normative science is essentially
_classificatory_.  That implies that logic as semeiotic is a
classification of the ways that formal logic is applied to practice.  The
reasoning methods of logic as semeiotic are derived from mathematical
logic.  Many people who talk about Peirce's semeiotic ignore the fact that
his reasoning methods are based on mathematical logic. 
Observation
from p, 13 of R602 and pp. 10 and 11 of PRexcerpts:  Phaneroscopic
research requires a previous study of mathematics.  The kind of
mathematics depends on the application, and there is no limit on the
amount and depth of mathematics that may be needed.


John

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