John S, Robert, Jon A, List,

Here are a few questions about the philosophical import of the mathematics of 
category theory. I'm hoping that you might have some ideas that would shed some 
light on the matter.


  1.   Category theory represents a class of objects as nodes and then 
connections are made in terms of directed arrows. It has the general aim of 
exploring structure-preserving morphisms within a mathematical system (e.g., a 
topology). Similarly, it can be used to explore maps between different systems 
of objects (e.g., between sets and groups). In these two respects, category 
theory bears a striking resemblance to the system of representations and 
resulting analysis developed by A.B Kempe in his A Memoir of the Theory of 
Mathematical Form. The upshot of both systems is that they enable the user to 
study the composition and decomposition of relations within and between 
virtually any mathematical system. Do you find the similarities between 
contemporary category theory and Kempe's system similarly striking?
  2.  Peirce was much impressed with the depth of the Kempe's insights into the 
formal features that are essential for inquiry in any area of mathematics. At 
this same time, he thought that Kempe's analyses fell short in a number of 
respects. One shortcoming was the result of treating objects as nodes that are 
connected by several arrows. This mirrors a central feature of Euler's graph 
theory. Peirce raises an objection that this does not provide the resources 
needed to analyze objects that are connected by three or more arrows in Kempe's 
systems. Peirce thought that the introduction of a branching relation that is 
inherently triadic in character might help to remedy this shortcoming. Do any 
of Peirce's objections apply both to Kempe's analysis of mathematical form and 
to contemporary category theory?
  3.  One of the striking features of category theory is that it enables the 
user to compare the structural features of wildly different types of 
mathematical systems. As such, systems that are infinite and continuous can be 
compared directly with systems that finite and discrete. Given Peirce's 
classification of these different kinds of mathematical systems, where does 
category theory itself fall? In particular, does the category of categories 
(i.e., the application of the theory to itself) belong to the part of 
mathematics that studies infinite and continuous systems, or does it belong to 
the study of systems that are finite and discrete, or does it fall somewhere in 
the middle?

Yours,

Jeff



Jeffrey Downard
Associate Professor
Department of Philosophy
Northern Arizona University
(o) 928 523-8354
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From: John F. Sowa <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, May 29, 2020 6:19:48 AM
To: Peirce-L
Subject: [PEIRCE-L] The sciences: mathematical and classificatory


Robert and Jon,

I was browsing through and deleting some old email, and I came across the 
points quoted below.  I also remember that Jon claimed that Peirce's word 
'classificatory' for normative science made it sound trivial.

But there are only three  kinds of science: (1) mathematical, (2) 
classificatory. and (3) some combination of #1 and #2 in various proportions.  
Physics, after Galileo and Newton, became highly mathematical, but it has 
always depended on classification for its choice of hypotheses.  Chemistry 
began as the classificatory science of alchemy, but it became more and more 
mathematical as it used physics to interpret and develop its study of the 
phenomena.  And biology was almost purely classificatory until the late 20th 
century.

As for phaneroscopy, Peirce derived his semeiotic by applying mathematics to 
the analysis of experiences in the phaneron.  (See R602, Photometric 
Researches, and the sections of CP vol. 1 which the editors labeled 
'Phenomenology'.)

Pure mathematics (which includes mathematical logic) is the only science that 
is purely mathematical.  But mathematics in practice depends on the 
classificatory sciences for the choice of various hypotheses to study.

As for phaneroscopy, Peirce derived his semeiotic by applying mathematics to 
the analysis of experiences in the phaneron.  (See R602, Photometric 
Researches, and the sections of CP vol. 1, which the editors labeled 
'Phenomenology'.)   That is why I used the term "formal semeiotic" for the 
methods Peirce used to derive his categories.  And I agree that mathematical 
category theory is a powerful method for analyzing the structure.  I believe 
that it makes a strong case for the label "formal".

The next step after deriving formal semeiotic is to use it to classify the 
open-ended variety of phenomena labeled aesthetics, ethics, and rhetoric -- 
essentially every book on those subjects from Aristotle to the present.   All 
the work on government and legal matters combines ethics and rhetoric with some 
logic (mostly limited to Aristotle's version).  All that work is 
classificatory, and it's by no means trivial.

John

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RM> Thank you very much John for these texts I did not ... I could have known 
the R602 since I had access to microfilmed manuscripts, but at the time, I was 
mainly interested in sign classifications and I did not think that this ms 
could contain such assertions . I particularly remember this sentence: 
"Phaneroscopic research requires a previous study of mathematics.  The type of 
mathematics depends on the application, and there is no limit on the amount and 
depth of mathematics that may be needed" that I have had the opportunity to 
show to all those who will tell me that it does not have the ability to access 
the elementary definitions of category theory ...

"Scientific research is a fighting sport".
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JFS>  Your summary of the issues is very good, and I strongly agree with the 
need for examples.

In a search for examples, I went back to _Photometric Researches_, which I 
believe is essential for understanding the development of Peirce's philosophy.  
It's not an accident that it was published in 1878, the same year in which "How 
to make our ideas clear" was published in _Popular Science Monthly_.  (Peirce 
met the editor of that magazine when they were both in Sicily, observing the 
solar eclipse.)

The title of Chapter 1 is "The sensation of light."  See 
http://jfsowa.com/peirce/PRexcerpts.pdf .

On page 2, he wrote "Light considered purely as something in the external world 
may be called _noumenal light_.  Light considered as an appearance, and as a 
function of the sensation, such that it is measured by the convention just 
mentioned, may be termed _phenomenal light_.  Photometry generally concerns 
phenomenal light..."

Just reading a few pages (my PRexperts, for example) is enough to show how 
deeply Peirce's phaneroscopy is grounded in his scientific and engineering 
research.  It's also important to compare that research with R602, which was 
written after his 1903  classification of the sciences.  See 
http://jfsowa.com/peirce/r602.htm :

p 12> But preliminary to normative science, which is essentially 
classificatory, — stop to take that well in, I beg you, gentle reader, there 
should be a nomological science, which shall make out all the different 
indecomposable elements which enter into everything that is conceivably 
possible, discriminates them with care, and shows how they can be varied and 
combined. This science I hesitate to call phenomenology after Hegal, for fear 
of marring his peculiar conception of it; and therefore, though I think it is 
essentially the same thing under a somewhat different aspect, I will name 
phaneroscopy.

p 13> It is the science of the different elementary constituents of all ideas. 
Its material [m13] is, of course, universal experience, — experience I mean of 
the fanciful and the abstract, as well as of the concrete and real. Yet to 
suppose that in such experience the elements were to be found already separate 
would be to suppose the unimaginable and selfcontradictory. They must be 
separated by a process of thought that cannot be summoned up Hegel-wise on 
demand. They must be picked out of the fragments that necessary reasonings 
scatter; and therefore it is that phaneroscopic research requires a previous 
study of mathematics.

Observation from p, 12:  normative science is essentially _classificatory_.  
That implies that logic as semeiotic is a classification of the ways that 
formal logic is applied to practice.  The reasoning methods of logic as 
semeiotic are derived from mathematical logic.  Many people who talk about 
Peirce's semeiotic ignore the fact that his reasoning methods are based on 
mathematical logic.

Observation from p, 13 of R602 and pp. 10 and 11 of PRexcerpts:  Phaneroscopic 
research requires a previous study of mathematics.  The kind of mathematics 
depends on the application, and there is no limit on the amount and depth of 
mathematics that may be needed.

John
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