John, All, List:

With your permission given below, I am posting this reply on Peirce-L.
Anyone is obviously still free to respond off-List if that is preferred.

JFS:  The theory of EGs that Peirce presented in L231 (which I have been
calling eg1911) is the one he wished Lady Welby and her group to consider
his last and best version of EGs.


This claim is a plausible interpretative hypothesis based on the
circumstances and timing of the letter, but it should be acknowledged that
the text itself does not state or imply any such specific intention on
Peirce's part.

JFS:  Some readers might be misled by Peirce's earlier writings to think
that there is some "deeper" meaning that is not expressed by a nest of two
ovals.


Such an impression is not misleading at all, since Peirce *explicitly *denies
that a consequence (scroll) is strictly equivalent to a composite of two
negations (nested cuts).  I already quoted the following passage in one of
my Peirce-L posts, but it is worth repeating.

CSP:  The second failure of Selectives to be as analytical as possible lies
in their encouraging the idea that negation, or denial, is a relatively
simple concept, and that the concept of Consequence, is a special composite
of two negations, so that to say, “If in the actual state of things A is
true, then B is true,” is correctly analyzed as the assertion, “It is false
to say that A is true while B is false.” I fully acknowledge that, for most
purposes and in a preliminary explanation, the error of this analysis is
altogether insignificant. But when we come to the first analysis the
inaccuracy must not be passed over. ... Indeed, so far is the concept of
*Sequence *from being a composite of two Negations, that, on the contrary,
the concept of the Negation of any state of things, X, is, precisely, a
composite of which one element is the concept of Sequence. Namely, it is
the concept of a sequence from X of the essence of falsity. (R 300:[47-51],
1908)


According to Peirce, it is neither correct nor accurate to analyze "if A
then B" as "not (A and not-B)," although "for most purposes ... the error
of this analysis is altogether insignificant."  Treating negation as a
primitive results in a system that is simpler and more iconic, but not "as
analytical as possible" because negation is "a composite of which one
element is the concept of Sequence," which by contrast is indecomposable
and fundamental to logic.

CSP:  A sequence is a unidimensional form in which there is a difference
between the relation of A to B and of B to A. Mathematically considered, in
one dimension it is a progress from a point A to a point B, where A and B
are different or A and B may coincide, or they may both vanish. Of these
three forms of sequence, the first [hyperbolic] is distinctly that of logic
since the ultimate antecedent and the ultimate consequent are different in
logic. You cannot proceed from antecedent to consequent till you reach
again your original antecedent (as in the 3rd kind of sequence, the
elliptical), nor do you *tend *to such a return (as in the second, or
parabolic sequence), but the two are distinct. (NEM 4:127, 1897-8)


Peirce even generalizes this to the very process of semeiosis, whose
sequence is always from the object through the sign to the interpretant.  "The
object and the interpretant are thus merely the two correlates of the sign;
the one being antecedent, the other consequent of the sign" (EP 2:410,
1907).  Hence I continue to maintain that the cut for negation must be
*derived *from the scroll for consequence with a blackened inner close,
rather than treated as a primitive, even when shading is employed instead.

Regards,

Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA
Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian
www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt

On Sat, Aug 1, 2020 at 11:56 PM John F. Sowa <[email protected]> wrote:

> Jon et al.,
>
> I have no objection to posting any or all of these notes on Peirce-L.  I
> sent my previous note offline to avoid stuffing everybody's inboxes with
> endless debates about a very straightforward claim:  The theory of EGs that
> Peirce presented in L231 (which I have been calling eg1911) is the one he
> wished Lady Welby and her group to consider his last and best version of
> EGs.
>
> Re the word 'scroll':   In terms of the semantics (endoporeutic) and
> permissions (rules of inference) of eg1911, a scroll is *indistinguishable*
> from a shaded area with a nested unshaded area.  Anything that Peirce wrote
> about scrolls prior to 17 June 1911 is useful only for understanding the
> development of Peirce's thought.  After that date. the word 'scroll' can
> only create confusion.  Some readers might be misled by Peirce's earlier
> writings to think that there is some "deeper" meaning that is not expressed
> by a nest of two ovals.
> Re intuitionistic logic:  Peirce may have had some vague thoughts along
> those lines, but he never formulated them precisely.  Anybody has a right o
> develop an intuitionisitic extension to EGs and use whatever notation they
> prefer.  But their choice of syntax and semantics for those EGs is
> independent of anything that Peirce wrote.
>
> John
>
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