Edwina, List: ET: It seems to me that De Tienne is here referring to the experience/consciousness that can be understood as a Qualisign, or Iconic Sinsign or even a Rhematic Indexical Sinsign.
On the contrary, André is explicitly discussing phaneroscopy, not semeiotic. The phaneron encompasses whatever is or could be present to the mind in any way--not just Signs/mediation (3ns), but also Ideas/quality (1ns) and Brute Actuality/reaction (2ns). Regards, Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt - twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt On Mon, Aug 23, 2021 at 11:59 AM Edwina Taborsky <tabor...@primus.ca> wrote: > List > > It seems to me that De Tienne is here referring to the > experience/consciousness that can be understood as a Qualisign, or Iconic > Sinsign or even a Rhematic Indexical Sinsign. That is - since all > experience is triadic - and since the descriptions of 'experience' provided > by De Tienne seem to emphasize their being individual, unique, > non-analyzed...then, there is no Thirdness involved. > > But, the Peircean notion of synechism/continuity suggests that > Thirdness/generality/Mind..is somehow, at some time in the interaction, > involved. "The synechist will not admit that physical and psychical > phenomena are entirely distinct" 1893 EP2.23 > > Bringing in Robert Marty's 'Five Paths'...one wonders: 'where do we go > from here'? After all, we are here involved purely in the semiosis of > Firstness and Secondness and yet, as Peirce argues within his synechism, > Mind or Thirdness has to be involved within not only what WE experience but > within that objective reality with which we interact. > > Edwina >
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