Thanks for that, Gary. Yes, you're right, genuine/degenerate and dynamic/immediate were the distinctions I had in mind. I've been making my way through Peirce's works for a while but every now and then I need to read secondary sources just to see how likely/unlikely my interpretation of Peirce is.
Thanks again for the resources. Jack ________________________________ From: g...@gnusystems.ca <g...@gnusystems.ca> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 2021 4:25 PM To: JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY <jack.cody.2...@mumail.ie>; peirce-l@list.iupui.edu <peirce-l@list.iupui.edu> Subject: RE: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 36 Jack, what you are asking for here is what I call (in my book<https://gnusystems.ca/TS/dlg.htm#chrt>) “premature precision.” Nevertheless I can offer a few pointers. The Commens Dictionary (Commens | Digital Companion to C. S. Peirce<http://www.commens.org/>) is the best resource for his terminology, but all of the many quotations in it are taken out of context (of course), so it’s no substitute for reading the two volumes of The Essential Peirce, which are by far the best way to begin learning what he thought. (Except that the very first article in EP1 is among his most difficult.) A shorter online alternative is Peirce: selections, summaries and secondary sources (gnusystems.ca)<https://gnusystems.ca/Peirce.htm>. Referring to the specific terms you mention: there is no “dynamic/degenerate distinction” that I know of. There is a very important dynamic/immediate distinction which applies to both objects and interepretants (not to signs themselves). There is also a genuine/degenerate distinction which he only rarely applies to signs, but does apply to Secondness and Thirdness (it does not apply to Firstness) in his phenomenology/phaneroscopy. You can find examples of these applications in the Commens Dictionary. Gary f. From: peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu <peirce-l-requ...@list.iupui.edu> On Behalf Of JACK ROBERT KELLY CODY Sent: 31-Aug-21 10:35 To: peirce-l@list.iupui.edu; g...@gnusystems.ca Subject: Re: [PEIRCE-L] [EXTERNAL] André De Tienne: Slow Read slide 36 Gary F, List, I wonder, in the context of the below slide, what are the precise relations/roles of dynamic/degenerate signs with respect to distinctions of internal/external (or fiction/fact, though this might be far too sharp a boundary to draw)? Or, is there any work people would suggest for those of us still coming to terms with Peirce's terms? (but especially the dynamic/degenerate distinction). Best Jack
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