Thank you, Jon. You nailed the essence of the inquiry in leadership I’m conducting.
Which leads me to say, more generally that whether we’re looking at life as consumers or voters, family- or community members, and we want to go about it pragmatically, then we want to about it as inquirers, i.e. employing the scientific method, and for Peirce: To inquire into the true nature of reality, you’ve got to have genuine (charitable) interest in the results others get running the same experiments you do. If your findings are unique, then they cannot be considered generally true. A business, too, is an experiment of sorts, and as business people we must ask, “What is the impact my work makes on the community?" We must also have faith that our discoveries will be corroborated by others. This means that, e.g. in disputes, it’s more productive to focus on seeking to understand, rather than being quarrelsome. And it is in the nature of pragmatist inquiry to hope that our findings will continue to be (dis)confirmed ad infinitum, i.e. that they are real. So we need to watch our tendency to both originalism and endism. With respect, Martin > On 20 Apr 2023, at 4:49 PM, Jon Alan Schmidt <jonalanschm...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Martin, Gary R., List: > > The challenge that we face as Peirceans today is advocating not only > scholastic realism and objective idealism in an intellectual climate of > widespread (and often uncritical) nominalism and materialism, but also value > monism in an intellectual climate of widespread pluralism. As I recently > learned from some interactions with self-described pragmatists on Twitter who > are much more partial to James and Rorty than Peirce, there is considerable > resistance to the notion of a single summum bonum. I did not have time to > touch on esthetics and ethics in my 10-minute presentation, but as I see it, > applying synechism in those normative sciences involves recognizing that > concrete reasonableness is itself a manifestation of continuity as "a special > kind of generality, or conformity to one idea" (CP 7.535n6, 1908). > > CSP: Such is the place of logic among the sciences; and such is its utility. > Yet the reader will find that the aggregate value of all such applications > will not compare with the treasure of the pure theory itself. For when he has > surveyed the whole subject, he will see that the theory of logic, in so far > as we attain to it, is the vision and the attainment of that Reasonableness > for the sake of which the Heavens and the Earth have been created. (CP 2.122, > 1902) > > The resulting ethical imperative is for each of us to exercise self-control > over our future actions by deliberately cultivating habits of conduct > accordingly. > > CSP: This development of Reason consists, you will observe, in embodiment, > that is, in manifestation. The creation of the universe, which did not take > place during a certain busy week, in the year 4004 B.C., but is going on > today and never will be done, is this very development of Reason. I do not > see how one can have a more satisfying ideal of the admirable than the > development of Reason so understood. The one thing whose admirableness is not > due to an ulterior reason is Reason itself comprehended in all its fullness, > so far as we can comprehend it. Under this conception, the ideal of conduct > will be to execute our little function in the operation of the creation by > giving a hand toward rendering the world more reasonable whenever, as the > slang is, it is "up to us" to do so. (CP 1.615, EP 2:255, 1903) > > I recently came across the following in an unpublished manuscript where > Peirce aligns elliptical philosophy (no starting/stopping point) with > epicureanism, parabolic philosophy (same starting/stopping point) with > pessimism, and his own hyperbolic philosophy (different starting/stopping > points) with meliorism. > > CSP: [Meliorists] think that throughout the universe as a whole, the good has > a decided tendency to prevail. If you ask what they mean by the good, they > will tell you they mean the ultimate end of the universe. Accordingly, when > they say the good tends to prevail, they mean there is a general tendency > throughout the universe toward some describable condition of things. These > thinkers consequently prescribe for us what they consider as an infallible > recipe for being happy, if one only has the strength of mind to take the > medicine, namely, to bring your desires into conformity with the general > course of nature. ... Since the maxim of happiness is to recognize and accept > the truth, they declare that contempt for the ego and love for the community > of soul is the truest and happiest sentiment. (R 953, no date) > > This might be the closest that Peirce ever comes to endorsing a version of > natural law theory, especially in conjunction with my suggestion that the > complete revelation of God is the overall final interpretant of the entire > universe as a sign, i.e., the "describable condition of things" toward which > "there is a general tendency throughout the universe." Accordingly, "to bring > your desires into conformity with the general course of nature" would then > amount to bringing your desires into conformity with the revealed character > of God Himself, along with your actions and beliefs. > > Regarding leadership, I think that it makes a lot of sense to frame it as > drawing followers toward a designated goal as a final cause (3ns), instead of > the all-too-common approach of pushing them toward it as an efficient cause > (2ns). This allows appropriate flexibility in the means that they can employ > to reach the specified end, as opposed to dictating every step along the way. > > Thanks, > > Jon Alan Schmidt - Olathe, Kansas, USA > Structural Engineer, Synechist Philosopher, Lutheran Christian > www.LinkedIn.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/JonAlanSchmidt> / twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt > <http://twitter.com/JonAlanSchmidt> > On Thu, Apr 20, 2023 at 10:14 AM Martin W. Kettelhut <mkettel...@msn.com > <mailto:mkettel...@msn.com>> wrote: >> I appreciate your response, Gary. >> >> Yes, serving our world as pragmatists is fundamentally about leading our >> lives as expressions of the summum bonum, and the passages from Peirce’s >> papers rooting the logic of probability in the "social impulse” are at the >> core of the book I’m writing on leadership as triadically relational (vs >> leadership as traditionally conceived, namely as characteristics of an >> individual): >> >> Leader (qua essential way of being) - Follower(s)/Led (qua actual object) - >> Future (qua indeterminate interpretant). >> >> I’m a big fan of your and Ben’s chapter in "Peirce in His Own Words" on this >> topic. It’s an inspiration for my book, in fact. >> >> I’d be honored if given the opportunity at some point to offer a >> presentation on the book I’m writing, working title: "Listening for >> Leadership: Three Essential Sentiments [Love, Faith, Hope]." >> >> Yours sincerely, >> >> Martin W. Kettelhut, PhD >> ListeningIsTheKey.com >> 303 747 4449 >>> On 19 Apr 2023, at 11:04 PM, Gary Richmond <gary.richm...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:gary.richm...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Martin, List, >>> >>> Thanks for joining our 10 minute thesis presentation this past Saturday and >>> for your post to Peirce-L today. >>> >>> I think that your suggestion that "there’s a. . . fundamental and urgent >>> question to ask ourselves about how to insinuate realism in a >>> nominalist/individualist world" points to perhaps the most urgent task for >>> pragmatists, most certainly for those of a Peircean stripe. >>> >>> Your question seems to point to a kind of decision we need to make as to >>> how we ought conduct ourselves, not only in conferences and discussion >>> forums and the like but, perhaps especially, in our quotidian lives. On >>> Peirce's esthetic theory, this would represent the employment of a form of >>> the summum bonum, this in conjunction with his ethical theory which >>> includes making a decision to make that a habit of one's life. If we can do >>> that, then perhaps we can hope to begin to personally model that kind of >>> behavior in our scientific and philosophic work, as well as in our >>> collegial, familial and work lives. >>> >>> The goal would seem to involve our coming to live more and more by faith, >>> hope, and love, a trio of values Peirce saw as essentially logical. See, >>> for example, the chapter "Logic is Rooted in the Social Principle (and vice >>> versa)" by Ben Udell and myself in Charles Sanders Peirce in His Own Words >>> <https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/9781614516415/html>. >>> >>> While it doesn't seem at all clear to me how this can be brought about very >>> generally in our philosophical and scientific communities in their current >>> nominalistic/individualistic state, it is certainly something which we as >>> pragmatists likely need to reflect on and attempt to work together toward. >>> >>> Jon has consistently tried to address some related issues in his papers on >>> the ethics of engineering, and Gary Fuhrman in his e-book, Turning Signs, >>> as well as in the electronic discussions he's created around it. >>> >>> Perhaps it would be helpful for us to reflect deeply on this question you >>> posed in your post. >>> >>> MWK: How are we serving the needs of a world engendered by reductionism in >>> politics and the media, the over-extension of pluralism in social media >>> platforms, relativism gone wild in the interpretation of the law, the >>> conundrums of individualism for economics, and rampant nihilism in every >>> sector? >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Gary R >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 19, 2023 at 5:50 PM Martin W. Kettelhut <mkettel...@msn.com >>> <mailto:mkettel...@msn.com>> wrote: >>>> Thank you for your 10-minute presentations Gary, Jon and Gary. >>>> >>>> What a fascinating phenomenon, a zoom conference with Powerpoint >>>> representations of Peirce’s trichotomies, synechism, and Kaina Stoichea! >>>> >>>> I supposed it was seeing each other, and hearing each other’s voices, that >>>> spark my wanting to inquire into our participation (as pragmatist >>>> philosophers) in our world currently—given what we learn from Peirce about >>>> science, the long and synechistic view, and the power of signs. >>>> >>>> You all chose these topics wisely; they capture crucial aspects of what’s >>>> irreducibly original in Peirce’s work. I submit that many of the questions >>>> raised by participants in this conference (not unlike many of the >>>> discussions here on the Peirce-list) reflect the challenge it is to >>>> communicate what’s fresh, relevant, and pragmaticistic in Peirce. I >>>> appreciate the patience, good will, and insight you three—in >>>> particular—bring. >>>> >>>> In the background of the question I’m going to propose for discussion here >>>> is a recognition that, although I did write a dissertation on Peirce's >>>> semeiotic/metaphysics and receive a PhD from Temple U, I immediately left >>>> academic life and became a "philosopher of the marketplace,” meaning--in >>>> my case--business coach. I apply synechism everyday in my work, partnering >>>> with business people to build and sustain meaningful, successful, and >>>> ethical businesses. >>>> >>>> My question is, given (as Gary Fuhrman points out) that it is legisigns >>>> that have pragmatic power to get things done; and assuming that the >>>> purpose of a zoom conference on Peirce is to “combat nominalism”--as Ian >>>> MacDonald so actualistically put it--or rather embody the >>>> discovery-process that pragmaticism/synechism is: What’s the best >>>> approach? What symbols should we use? How do we represent the scientific >>>> endeavor anew, holistically (in a Peircean sense, i.e. in terms of what’s >>>> possible what’s actual, and what’s potential)? >>>> >>>> Diagrams and bullet-points certain help; but I think there’s a more >>>> fundamental and urgent question to ask ourselves about how to insinuate >>>> realism in a nominalist/individualist world. On the one hand, this is a >>>> question about how to embody realism in an academic conference, but it’s >>>> also a question about how we (pragmatist philosophers) might embody >>>> realism in the world generally. How are we serving the needs of a world >>>> engendered by reductionism in politics and the media, the over-extension >>>> of pluralism in social media platforms, relativism gone wild in the >>>> interpretation of the law, the conundrums of individualism for economics, >>>> and rampant nihilism in every sector? >>>> >>>> Thank you for considering, >>>> >>>> Martin W. 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