Gary,

Thanks for that quote from CP 2.635, which I think sums it perfectly.
In my experience with different modes of inquiry, very few questions
are settled by debate, not the formal debating team kind, much less
the joint public appearance kind, but only by accumulating so much
information relative to a hypothesis that the truth of the matter
becomes overwhelming clear.

The political situation in the U.S. -- and especially in my own neck of the 
woods --
has become so dire in recent months that I find myself engaged in more 
discussions
of public affairs than at any time since the late 60s and early 70s.  The 
ongoing
war on science has ramified itself into a full-scale war on the whole environs 
of
democracy and education that render authentic research, scholarship, and science
possible at all.

But it's Saturday ... more on this later ...

Jon

Gary Fuhrman wrote:
Sally, i’d just like to say thanks for your leadership in the slow read of this 
paper – your probing questions and your introduction of other perspectives 
revealed aspects of its meaning that i wouldn’t otherwise have noticed.

On JR’s recommendation against “debate”, my guess at his point is that debate 
is not a mode of inquiry or communication at all, but rather a competitive game 
or power struggle, a parody of genuine argument. The spirit of debate is 
therefore alien to the life of science, which JR characterizes as an 
“idealistic” quest for truth -- definitely a Peircean view of science. As for 
Peirce’s use of the term “debate”, i did come across one passage seems to 
reflect the view i’m attributing to JR – CP 2.635 (1878):

[[[ Some persons fancy that bias and counter-bias are favorable to the 
extraction of truth—that hot and partisan debate is the way to investigate. 
This is the theory of our atrocious legal procedure. But Logic puts its heel 
upon this suggestion. It irrefragably demonstrates that knowledge can only be 
furthered by the real desire for it, and that the methods of obstinacy, of 
authority, and every mode of trying to reach a foregone conclusion, are 
absolutely of no value. ]]]

Gary F.

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