GF: Good point, Jon -- we should not neglect the element of performance art in 
philosophy! :-)

GF: However I'm not sure it's right to say that the metaphysical order is more 
fundamental than the
    phenomenological. It doesn't seem to jibe with Peirce's classification of 
the sciences, either.

JA: Yes, we always have the choice between "first in nature" and "first for us".
    I have no strong feelings about which first comes first -- I was just going
    by Peirce's statement:

CSP: Besides, it would be illogical to rely upon the categories to decide so 
fundamental a question.

JA: But you are right, one could just as well say that independent foundations 
are both fundamental
    without one foundation being more fundamental than the other.

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