Jeffrey Grace wrote:
>>It struck me as Peirceian because, if I'm not mistaken, Peirce
denied that there was such a thing as "introspection". He also seemed to
affirm the idea that individuals are "less real" than generality... or rather
that all individuals are instances of general categories and therefore less real
as individuals. I also get the impression that what we call mind or
subjective experience is more objective or public than we realize... and this
seems to coincide with Dennett's heterophenomenology...the idea that an
objective observer might be able to read someone's subjective experience better
than the subject him/herself>>.
Dear, Jeffrey, I can't find the Justice Holmes quote about the
plain meaning of words vs one's subjective intent that I thought was so apt to
your comments -- but do want to say I think you make a very good
point. In fact, recently I was thinking about Dennett's homunculus/theater
of the mind metaphor in conjunction with the "infinite regression"
criticism sometimes leveled against Peirce theory of signs. My idea was
that a theater of the mind need only go three levels deep to cover all the
possiblities (but that's for another discussion and only tangentially
related to the point you are making). Just now I merely want to say
that I think you capture something very important about Peirce's
views and also maybe something about Denett's that he may
not realize himself. Surely Peirce's ideas on pragmatism gave
impetus to the objective thrust that so captured law, psychology and
philosophy in the early 1900s. And Dennett is indebted to this
tradition.
All said with respect and admiration for
the counterpoints of Steven and Gary. That's part of what I find so
appealing and impressive about Peirce -- that he identified both what is
best and what is worst in behaviorism.
Cheers,
Jim Piat
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