Marv Gandall asked:

> How would you amend the Leap Manifesto, if at all, to bring it into
> line with your views on economic growth and climate change?

Here is the link to the Leap Manifesto:

https://leapmanifesto.org/en/the-leap-manifesto/#manifesto-content

Here is my answer to Marv's question:  Economic growth is bad for the
planet, but a manifesto rallying a mass movement around climate change
should not be brought in line with my views on economic growth.  This
would be putting the cart before the horse.

The discussion between George Monbiot and George Marshall in the
Guardian Live forum at

http://youtub.one/watch/0cCCanfgZ4A

is relevant for the Leap Manifesto and other policies based on Naomi
Klein's "This Changes Everything."  The Leap manifesto raises climate
change as an issue and at the same time promotes left-wing policies to
solve it.  According to George Marshall, this is the wrong approach.
Climate change should not be used to promote left-wing policies.
Marshall rejects the vanguard approach which says that the most
committed 20 percent of the populace will be able to determine policies
and the others will come along.  Marshall argues the changes in policy
and culture are so big and must happen at such a fast pace that "coming
along" is not enough; conservatives (and everyone else) must be brought
on board as active promoters, not passive or reluctant followers.
(These are my words trying to succinctly summarize Marshall's views,
Marshall uses other words.)  Conservatives can be brought on board
because the lifestyles necessary for a sustainable economy are
compatible with conservative values.  We need to break Climate Silence
and start a broad discussion based on the recognition of climate change
as an existential threat, in which all policy approaches must be on the
table, not only left-wing policies.

Hans G Ehrbar
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