If I believed what Hans argues here (that more or less everyone must be "on board") I would simply give up politics of any sort. The world is not a Congressional Committee taking evidence from experts. And it's not that all those people -- "conservatives (and everyone else) -- would refuse; it's that for the most part they wouldn't even know those doing the talking existed! You cannot convince an audience that is neither in the auditorium nor even knows the auditorium or the speakers exist.
Carrol -----Original Message----- From: pen-l-boun...@lists.csuchico.edu [mailto:pen-l-boun...@lists.csuchico.edu] On Behalf Of ehr...@marx.economics.utah.edu Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 12:13 PM To: Progressive Economics Cc: ene...@lists.csbs.utah.edu Subject: [Pen-l] The Leap Manifesto Marv Gandall asked: > How would you amend the Leap Manifesto, if at all, to bring it into > line with your views on economic growth and climate change? Here is the link to the Leap Manifesto: https://leapmanifesto.org/en/the-leap-manifesto/#manifesto-content Here is my answer to Marv's question: Economic growth is bad for the planet, but a manifesto rallying a mass movement around climate change should not be brought in line with my views on economic growth. This would be putting the cart before the horse. The discussion between George Monbiot and George Marshall in the Guardian Live forum at http://youtub.one/watch/0cCCanfgZ4A is relevant for the Leap Manifesto and other policies based on Naomi Klein's "This Changes Everything." The Leap manifesto raises climate change as an issue and at the same time promotes left-wing policies to solve it. According to George Marshall, this is the wrong approach. Climate change should not be used to promote left-wing policies. Marshall rejects the vanguard approach which says that the most committed 20 percent of the populace will be able to determine policies and the others will come along. Marshall argues the changes in policy and culture are so big and must happen at such a fast pace that "coming along" is not enough; conservatives (and everyone else) must be brought on board as active promoters, not passive or reluctant followers. (These are my words trying to succinctly summarize Marshall's views, Marshall uses other words.) Conservatives can be brought on board because the lifestyles necessary for a sustainable economy are compatible with conservative values. We need to break Climate Silence and start a broad discussion based on the recognition of climate change as an existential threat, in which all policy approaches must be on the table, not only left-wing policies. Hans G Ehrbar _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list pen-l@lists.csuchico.edu https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
