In a message dated 7/15/00 3:45:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< reform capitalists a label
 -programme 
 to suck in the gullible and naive >>

Right. I am really a hired agent of the bourgeoisie, paid to sucker all 2000 
of you Marxists, who really worry the capitalist state. I defend market 
socialism this under a pen name, since the rest of my time I defend polluters 
and tobacco interests against the claims of those whom they have injured.

Jesus Christ. If we don't learn that real arguments and objective facts will 
not duisappear in the face of magical incantations of orthodoxy, but require 
substantive responses and, if unavoidable, accommodation, we are even more 
toasted toast than we now appear. 

Suppose you are right that market socialism is impossible. That does not mean 
that I am wrong that planned socialism is impossible, or at any rate 
undesirable. Then, lacking a third alternative, socialism is impossible. So 
we would then be stuck with reform capitalism, if indeed we ciuld get the 
reform kind. 

Critics of market socialism who wish to avoid this result have a moral and 
intellectual obligation to explain how their planned alternative can avoid 
the problems I have been pressing. Put up or shut up, I say.

--jks

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