Mike Yates wrote:
>John [Bellamy] Foster sharply attacks Burawoy's sociological theory in a 
>Monthly Review article published I believe in 1999.  I was at the 
>conference in which John made the attack. Burovoy was in the 
>audience.  John criticized Burovoy for the latter's sharp critique of 
>Harry Braverman's "Labor and Monopoly Capital."

I think it's worthwhile to mention what Burawoy is saying (as I understand 
it). I can't speak structuralist-Marxist (Althusserian) jargon very well, 
so I won't try. I'll do so in my own debased jargon.

The problem, for him, is that almost all management theory -- from 
Taylorite "scientific management" to human relations theory -- treats 
workers as mere objects to be manipulated. Unfortunately, Braverman leans 
in the same direction. He sees the immanent tendency for capital to swallow 
the entire world, creating a Universal Market while turning workers into 
skill-free interchangeable parts, with no distinguishing characteristics.

For Burawoy, this is reductionist, since it gives no independent role to 
workers' subjectivity, etc. We need to consider the role of the resistance 
to the rise of the Universal Market.  One of his points is that workers 
often _want to_ work for capital, making a game of who can be most 
proficient in doing the job. Of course, this subjectivity could also turn 
to socialist or anti-employer consciousness and organization. Thus there 
are "politics in production." (This sort of like Rick Edwards' "contested 
terrain.")

Nathan Newman writes: >it is worth emphasizing that Burawoy was criticizing 
Braverman's interpretation of how workers negotiated the deskilling process 
more than its reality.   And Burawoy was very clear that his critique in a 
book like his MANUFACTURING CONSENT was particular to the modern unionized 
monopoly capitalism of the industrial sector where internal labor markets 
had created realms of power and therefore consent by workers in the 
Gramscian hegemonic sense in how that deskilling was worked out.<

Right. Burawoy's theory seems to work better for the internal labor markets 
(primary labor markets) than for secondary labor markets (and it's a 
mistake to generalize from the former). Further, the main trend of the last 
25 years or so in the rich capitalist countries has been to undermine the 
primary labor markets -- the "good jobs" -- and to make jobs more insecure 
and workers more commodity-like. (To use the terms of a machinist I know, 
workers are being treated less and less like assets to the company and more 
and more like assholes.) So, even though Burawoy may have made a valid 
point against Braverman, the latter's description of capitalism seems more 
apt in recent years.

(It should also be stressed that "de-skilling" doesn't automatically reduce 
the level of skill in a rich country, as Braverman seems to assume -- since 
that is also affected by the "supply" of skills. The simplification of jobs 
can mean that the jobs are exported to countries with lower marketable 
skill levels, as in Raymond Vernon's "product cycle.")

On the issue of MONTHLY REVIEW: they do have debates, as when John Bellamy 
Foster criticized Bob Brenner and the latter responded. But they don't like 
criticism of Braverman at all. That's too bad, because the difference 
between the different Marxist views of the capitalist labor process isn't 
that big.

Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] &  http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine

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