Yes, this is indeed a long debate.  But since when did the left have a
monopoly on clarity?  Surely the "sheep", and their being "asleep" in
eonic times are not signs of it:)

As for CA, I have never been there, well almost.  A couple of nights at a
LA hotel during a conference, an alumni dinner in Santa Clara, and flying 
out to Asia, almost as an act of escapism. While the immigrant population
probably carry on their religious practices (the first generation or so),
it is still very decontextualized from its social settings.  I have very
little patience for New Ageism and the appropriation of Eastern systems by
the stars of Hollywood.  But hey, this is a free country!

Cheers, Anthony

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On Wed, 6 Jun 2001, Carrol Cox wrote:

> Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 10:04:05 -0500
> From: Carrol Cox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [PEN-L:12865] Re: Re: Re: Re: RE: the gospel of buddha
> 
> 
> 
> Anthony D'Costa wrote:
> > 
> > May be I wasn't clear enough: there is one thing as organized religion and
> > then there is spirituality.  I meant the 
> 
> Spirituality, not organized religion, is the evil. The left (when we get
> a left) must _of course_ include all religious leftists, even among the
> leadership. But the core of the left always has been and always will be
> materialist. "Spirituality" (in _all_ of its forms) leads to confused
> thinking and confused feeling.
> 
> This is a long debate and I'm not going to carry it on now. I have other
> immediate interests. But I don't think that this banal appeal to
> "spirituality" should be allowed to pass without at least an indication
> that it can't be taken for granted.
> 
> Carrol
> 
> 

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