>In response to Doug's (tongue-in-cheek?) comment
>
>>Never. It was a ruse devised by the bourgeoisie to occupy the
>>attention of otherwise smart and knowledgeable Marxian economists on
>>something addictively divisive but politically irrelevant.
>
>Charles writes
>
>>Charles:  Isn't it worse than that ?  Marx asserts as principle the
>>insolubility of the transformation problem.  The unsystematic relationship
>>between value and prices is symptomatic of the basic anarchy of capitalist
>>production. If the problem were "solved" , Marx would be refuted.
>
>Depends on what you think the "transformation problem" refers to.  As I
>read Marx, the "problem," as he posed it in Chapter 9 of Volume III, lies
>in showing that aggregate prices equal aggregate values and aggregate
>surplus value equals aggregate profits even if commodities exchange at
>prices of production which are disproportional to their values (which is
>the general case).  Issues have been raised with the logic of Marx's
>original demonstration, and interpretations of his value theory have been
>offered that get around these issues at the cost of raising others.  But
>the real question, it seems to me, is whether anything at all that is
>critical to Marxist political economy hinges on this demonstration.  And I
>agree with Doug's negative response to this question.
>
>Gil


Does the Sraffa model which presumably makes Marx's demonstration 
redundant explain the source of profit any better the Quesnay model 
to which as Heilbroner notes it bears a family resemblance explains 
the origin of the produit net?

rb

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