Ian wrote:

> I follow Veblen somewhat on this score; the
scientists-engineers
> will gain sufficient political influence over the current crop
> of morons.

Hey! This is my whole purpose as a scientist and engineer. Why do
you think I am here? I had enough of these current crop of
morons.

> Not that I advocate a technocracy; just that there are still
> a lot of very smart people on our planet who reject "fatalism"
> in all its forms.

I reject it too and I don't think Mark would disagree with that
either. So, I am not sure what is being dabeted here.

Sabri

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