I think with the killing of people in Iraq, Palestine, .... we don't need to center on personalities.
On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 07:56:11AM -0800, Devine, James wrote: > Instead of being pelted with petty personal attacks, Domhoff should be given > credit for doing excellent research to produce his books. His theory's not > very deep (in my humble opinion), but most of the people on pen-l are simply > shouting into the wind, to be almost completely ignored by others, unless > they're part of a mass movement. > > Elite-focused analysis and empirical research (C. Wright Mills, Domhoff) > contributed mightily to the theoretical vision of U.S. New Left of the > 1960s, which _was_ a mass movement. Unfortunately, a lot of that was > replaced by the crudest kinds of ideology masquerading as Marxism -- rather > than seeking a Marx/New Left synthesis. > > ------------------------ > Jim Devine [EMAIL PROTECTED] & http://bellarmine.lmu.edu/~jdevine > stop the war now! > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: e. ahmet tonak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 7:41 AM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Cc: G. William Domhoff; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: [PEN-L:35855] G. William Domhoff replies...The whole thing? > > > > > > Lou, > > > > If it is not too personal, it would be a good idea to forward > > Domhoff's > > entire response. Did you do it already? > > > > Louis Proyect wrote: > > > > > Bill Domhoff wrote: > > > > > >> for a Marxist, you don't seem to have much appreciation for > > >> structure, except of course in the economy....at least so I gather > > >> from reading your last paragraph....the recent I didn't > > waste my time > > >> on...but your arrogance is breath taking, of course, and > > what else is > > >> new, and why not bother to read the book, and maybe learn > > why we have > > >> failed so miserably, and if you think anyone who did what > > I suggest > > >> would do less well than Marxism, that is pathetic... > > > > > > > > > Sorry, Bill, I don't have much time for dreams. Nor Yoga, nor > > > transcendental meditation, nor mystical peyote insights. > > (Now, if you > > > know where I can get a hold of some good hashish, that's > > another story.) > > > > > >> civil rights movement, feminist movement, and many others > > have done > > >> well with help of left, including some marxists, but everything > > >> marxist has failed totally.... > > > > > > > > > What do they call that now? The god that failed? Oh well. I > > worry more > > > about my arches falling. > > > > > >> read the book, but I won't be opening any more of your arrogant > > >> emails... > > > > > > > > > Yes, you will since I have cast a magical spell on you. > > Ooooga-boooga! > > > > > > > > > Louis Proyect, Marxism mailing list: http://www.marxmail.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > E. Ahmet Tonak > > Professor of Economics > > > > Simon's Rock College of Bard > > 84 Alford Road > > Great Barrington, MA 01230 > > > > Tel: 413 528 7488 > > Fax: 413 528 7365 > > www.simons-rock.edu/~eatonak > > > > > > > > > > -- Michael Perelman Economics Department California State University Chico, CA 95929 Tel. 530-898-5321 E-Mail [EMAIL PROTECTED]
