Hi Eugene, --- Eugene Coyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > First, hydrogen is not a fuel. It is a storage > medium for energy > extracted from other fuels -- whether wind or > nuclear or whatever.
Hydrogen can be burned. It is an element. It can be extracted from water. http://www.hionsolar.com/n-hion96.htm > > Mike Ballard wrote: > > >Hydrogen is useful because it is not a carbon based > >fuel. > > > <snip> > > > Capitalists who own > >shares in the carbon based fuel industry will > always > >try to convince you that converting to non carbon > >based fuels is utopian. It's the same argument > they > >use against socialism i.e. TINA. > > > > It looks to me here as if you are making the mistake > of thinking of a > change in technology as a change in an economic > system. Is hydrogen the > alternative to capitalism? Hydrogen is an alternative to burning carbon based fuels. Using carbon based fuels causes pollution which we don't need and in fact is killing us and the Earth. Hydrogen probably won't be used on a wide enough scale to stop say, global warming before it goes too far, as long as capitalists own and profit from the sale of carbon based fuel commodities. It could be used on a wide scale, if the means of production were socially owned by the producers and employed to fulfill our desires to live in harmony with the Earth. > > Shane Mage sees hydrogen as a way to "reconfigure > our vehicle fleet." > Why not think a little about getting rid of the need > for "our vehicle > fleet"? Forget trying to dream up technological > fixes to save capitalism. I don't mind vehicles. I'm not trying to fix capitalism or replace it with enlightened commodity production. In fact, I think commodity production is the fetter which holds humanity back from freedom and "stabs the Earth in the side of the dawn" in the modern age. Best, Mike B) ===== ***************************************************************** "A man's maturity consists in finding once again the seriousness he had as a child at play." Heraclitus, Greek philosopher (500 B.C.) http://profiles.yahoo.com/swillsqueal __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
