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>Michael Hoover wrote:
> b)emergence of "new needs" under capitalism are - in part -
>expression of both more fully developed individual *and*
>increased capacity for enjoyment;

I assume that new needs are enclosed in scare quotes for obvious
reasons.
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i placed words in quotation marks although marx doesn't in _grundrisse_
(nicolaus, ed., pp. 409-410)
'...the discovery, creation, and satisfaction of new needs arising from
society itself; the cultivation of all the qualities of a social human
being, production of the same in a form as rich as possible in needs,
because rich in qualities and relations - production of this being as
the most total and universal social product, for in order to take
gratification in a many-sided way, he must be capable of many pleasures,
hence cultured to a high degree - is likewise a condition of production
founded on capital...'

km goes on to discuss capital's 'civilizing influence' which he states
breaks down (among other things) '...all traditional, confined,
complacent, encrusted satisfactions of present needs...'

>c) individuality as comprehensive development of human
> capacities presupposes society based on market relations...

Fuck individuality, if by this you mean shopping at Bloomingdales.
There
was more individuality in a Blackfoot village where everybody made
their
own clothing, decorated their tipis and made music and dance without
regard for whether they were "professionals" or not.
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don't think marx was thinking of either shopping or professionals (and
i most definitely wasn't), perhaps 'universality' would have been better
word choice than 'individuality' (also though km himself uses latter
term), when he writes in _capital, vol. 1, (fowkes ed., p. 772) that:
'universally developed individuals, whose social relations, as their
own communal relations, are hence also subordinated to their own
communal control, are no product of nature, but of history.  the degree
and universality of the development of wealth where this individuality
becomes possible supposed production on the basis of exchange value a a
prior condition, whose universality produces not only the alienation of
the individual from himself and from others, but also the universality
and the comprehensiveness of his relations and capacities...'

in other words, the conditions under which every person can explore
full range of potential human capacities for creativity and
enjoyment...in effect, capitalism 'teaches' folks to be dissatisfied
with subsistence level needs satisfaction *and* it creates "need" to
transcend that level...

i prefaced my earlier post with reference to marx's 'positive' theory
of market relations...there is, of course, a 'negative' side to all of
this...  michael hoover

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