Didn't the recent case in which the University of California
unsuccessfully tried to sue the banks regarding Enron put the bar for
such liability pretty high?


Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Hollings
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Banks may also have a liability to mortgage holders other than
themselves if
it can be shown that there was fraud in the underwriting process, such
as
excessively high appraisals of the collateral, the creditworthiness of
borrowers, etc.

Peter Hollings 

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On Mon, 2008-03-24 at 09:14 -0400, Shane Mage wrote:

> Of that $11 trillion most is not "subprime."  So the question is how 
> much equity underlies that $11 trillion, certainly not as little as 
> 100%!  And so the potential writedown has to be much less than that
> $1.375 trillion.

The question for this crisis is "subprime or not" but "equity or not".

Even prime borrowers don't like to pay debt which is more than the value
of
their house and no hope having the value go back fast enough. Some of
them
will keep paying, some will likely try hard not to pay which means huge
legal fees for bank and big stress on the justice system given the
number of
households with negative equity. I read 8 millions households somewhere
and
the number is going up when house prices go down.

Laurent
http://guerby.org/blog/


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