Mat, for some reason the inequality symbols didn't come through.

On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:11 AM, Forstater, Mathew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I don't know these specific arguments, but I would bet they are the
> conventional one that says that, since the value rate of profit is:
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> s/(c + v)
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> then it is equal to:
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> (s/v)/[(c/v) + 1]
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> The numerator, s/v, is the rate of surplus value, and c/v is the OCC.
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> This is interpreted as implying:
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> >that, in the abstract, expanded
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> >reproduction with a growing organic composition can go on *forever* as
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> >long as the surplus value rate is also allowed to increase.
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> BUT:
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> Define Marx's notion of "living labor" as:
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> L = V + S
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> His notion of "dead labor" = C
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> Then the value rate of profit:
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> [S/(C + V)] = [(L-V)/(C+V)]
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> This allows us to determine the upper and lower bounds of the rate of
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> As more total labor time becomes paid labor time:
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>       V à L and
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>       r à 0
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> As more and more total labor time goes to surplus value:
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>             S à L
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>             V à 0 and
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>             r à (L/C)
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> Now we are ready to state the:
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> Proof of the Law of the Falling Tendency of the Rate of Profit (LFTRP)
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> rmin = 0
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> rmax = (L/C)
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> (rmax -  rmin) = [(L/C) – 0] = (L/C)
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> This is the profit rate band.
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> If, over time, (C/L) is rising (and (L/C) is falling), then the profit rate
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> This has nothing to do with what is happening to (S/V), because (V + S = L).
> In fact, Marx thought that the LFTRP was associated with a rising (S/V).
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> (Of course, this can be explained and is not simply a mathematical
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> This is from Anwar Shaikh's Columbia University doctoral dissertation,
> available at his New School website.  Shaikh's thought was influenced by
> Grossman.
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> Julio wrote:
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> >This is wrong!  Krasnov and Fridman [and Oskar Lange and others] show
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> >that, in the abstract, expanded reproduction with a growing organic
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> >composition can go on *forever* as long as the surplus value rate is
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> Tugan-Baranovsky said the same thing:
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> "Even if all workers were replaced by machinery except for one worker, this
> single worker would be able to put into motion the vast mass of machinery,
> and with its help create new machines–and means of consumption…The working
> class could disappear; this would not disturb in the least the
> self-expansion of capitalism."
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