It's true that U.S. workers, white and otherwise, have been mostly indifferent to the well-being of peoples in the Third World. Though when unions negotiate, they don't say "I want some plunder," they just go for money with no thought as to what makes it possible.

"Increases in absolute wealth" in the U.S. have been substantially limited in the
past two or three decades for a pretty broad span of the population.

Whether "revolutionary immiseration" leads to revolution anywhere is another
story. Revolution proves to be a pretty rare event. Instead you have imperfect vessels of rebellion everywhere. How to deal with them is the usual problem.



Matthijs Krul wrote:

I agree with this sentiment. I think that while support for Western workers against Western capital, including their unions, is necessary, we shouldn't conveniently lose sight of the fact that these unions have been very succesful in negotiating with capital to share the spoils of the plunder of the Third World with their members. The corruption and reformism of Western major unions is not a coincidence - they are a labor aristocracy in many cases, if you look at it from a global perspective.

I think it is disingenuous for us to focus on the increase in relative immiseration in the First World, even though that is of itself true, because the increases in absolute wealth among (white) workers in this part of the world have been so enormous that they cannot be swept away as irrelevant by pointing at relative difference. Instead, we should recognize that the social-democratic movement has had success in sharing the profits gained from the real immiseration of the Third World, both relative and absolute (although more so relatively), among First World workers, sufficient to make the vast majority of them supportive of the current world system. Therefore, the real revolutionary kind of immiseration, whether you conceive of it as relative or as absolute, is _for the greatest part_ going to be found in the Third World.

Matthijs Krul
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