From: "Gar Lipow"
- > > Doyle; > At first I was thinking sort of your response to Doug's query but I realized > he was asking how sprawling suburbs can survive? No matter what you do > according to the above the suburbs must be rebuilt. True suburbs emerged > before car culture, but they can't survive without cars as they are. I > don't see a combination of trains and electric cars offering a smooth > transition from the present sprawl to the same spread out car culture. > > The first reason is that oil will rapidly become a problem before trains can > be built to replace car commuting. > > Second electric power is not itself free of carbon dioxide which means a > lengthy process of substitution that strangles car culture long before the > electric car infrastructure gets implemented. > thanks, > Doyle Saylor 1) Electric cars and trains are not a solution by themselves. You have to add renewable electricty tod drive them. 2) With electric trains we can use much more modest electric cars - ones with only a 40 or 50 mile range. ^^^^ CB: Why not cut back drastically on the need for commuting, by thoroughly organizing housing and work in walkably close proximity ? Walking is healthy , too. Then there are bicycles , too, horse drawn carriages even. Use trains, trucks and cars ( and sailboats and rowboats) for distant vacations and hauling raw materials and means of production , mainly. Parochialism would be avoided by the world wide web, rotating work-home locations systematically over several years, sports, art troupes, vacations, cultural exchange. This message has been scanned for malware by SurfControl plc. www.surfcontrol.com _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
