On Jun 5, 2008, at 7:27 AM, Max B. Sawicky wrote:
ravi wrote:
Hmm... I never got Max's original message (above). Strange. Anyway,
Max, the question really is, are you still willing to carry him
(Kos)? Or should I say: You ain't a brother, but are you still
heavy for Him(*)? ;-)
I don't think about him much. One of the fallouts from the Obama
miracle is that his on-line presence & fundraising machine have
totally eclipsed the Kos hive.
Howdy Max,
(The "Him" above was a reference -- admittedly obtuse -- to Obama.
Hence the capitalisation. Kos lacks the fanboy base for that, right
now). Regarding the funraising/on-line presence... this seems to be a
cyclical event for the "netroots". Every 2 years they mount various
spirited efforts only to find the traditionalists beating them out
once the primaries come to an end!
But wait, I recall some bad blood from the Pajama Media days...
Anyway, even as a non-Hillary-supporter, I found the attacks on
Hillary in the "netroots" irritating ... enough to consider not
voting Obama (if I was going to vote, that is!), just to spite
these precocious children ;-). And hence my question: if I feel
this way, it makes me wonder about the reaction from those truly
optimistic souls who find Hillary inspiring and actually wanted to
vote for her!
Hill & Bill deserved everything they got. Until they got read the
riot act
by their own supporters in Congress, they were still trying to
poison the
well for Obama, to keep the way to the nomination open in 2012.
Maybe true, but I was asking about the effect of the Hillary-hating on
those who may otherwise be inclined to vote Obama. If the sexist
attacks on Hillary (including by Obama supporters) can turn someone
like me (a non-Hillary supporter) angry, I was wondering about its
effect on those who actually thought Hillary was worth their support!
WRT getting read the riot act... this too is politics of course. In
this case, the politics of getting past the Clinton era... but not to
anything loftier. Clyburn and the rest of the manipulative snakes in
Congress are no more principled than the Clintons, as I see it.
--ravi
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