> Hi Ravi. I'm no expert on this, but my impression is that the > Obamillions are > > a formation of a new type. Maybe they all fizzle if he loses. If he > wins, my > > hunch is they may grow into something completely new. Obama has said > > that he needs mobilization post-election to get things done. What > things > > you may ask. That's what makes this so much fun. Good things or > crappy > > things. The times get more interesting, in more ways than one. By > contrast, > > with Hillary IMO they would get less interesting. > > > > Regarding the anti-Barack/pro-Hillary angst, my prediction is that > becomes a > > distant memory by, oh, tomorrow. > > > > cheers. > > > > > > > > Howdy Max, > > (The "Him" above was a reference -- admittedly obtuse -- to Obama. > Hence the capitalisation. Kos lacks the fanboy base for that, right > now). Regarding the funraising/on-line presence... this seems to be a > cyclical event for the "netroots". Every 2 years they mount various > spirited efforts only to find the traditionalists beating them out > once the primaries come to an end! > > > >> But wait, I recall some bad blood from the Pajama Media days... > >> Anyway, even as a non-Hillary-supporter, I found the attacks on > >> Hillary in the "netroots" irritating ... enough to consider not > >> voting Obama (if I was going to vote, that is!), just to spite > >> these precocious children ;-). And hence my question: if I feel > >> this way, it makes me wonder about the reaction from those truly > >> optimistic souls who find Hillary inspiring and actually wanted to > >> vote for her! > > > > Hill & Bill deserved everything they got. Until they got read the > > riot act > > by their own supporters in Congress, they were still trying to > > poison the > > well for Obama, to keep the way to the nomination open in 2012. > > Maybe true, but I was asking about the effect of the Hillary-hating on > those who may otherwise be inclined to vote Obama. If the sexist > attacks on Hillary (including by Obama supporters) can turn someone > like me (a non-Hillary supporter) angry, I was wondering about its > effect on those who actually thought Hillary was worth their support! > > WRT getting read the riot act... this too is politics of course. In > this case, the politics of getting past the Clinton era... but not to > anything loftier. Clyburn and the rest of the manipulative snakes in > Congress are no more principled than the Clintons, as I see it. > > --ravi > > _______________________________________________ > pen-l mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l >
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