Rudy Fichtenbaum wrote:
> When I think of management functions I think of the right to hire and fire
> and to set compensation. I know of no faculty tenured or otherwise that have
> any of these rights.

well, as a tenured prof, I've participated in hiring and even firing
decisions. The management can veto these, but in many cases the
faculty can, too. It's true that tenured profs can't set compensation.
We may be management, but it's lower management.

> This is one of the reasons why the Yeshiva decision is
> such a travesty.

yes, it was a travesty. Thanks for the details about it.

> I say all of this as a tenured faculty member at an institution where we
> have a collective bargaining agreement. In this agreement there is an
> article on management rights which makes it absolutely clear that the
> administration manages the university.

at a small and prosperous university with no union, the line between
the upper management and the tenured faculty is less clear. A
collective bargaining agreement clarifies that line, among other
things.

(BTW, LMU _is_ becoming more corporate every day. But we still have
this medieval commitment to teaching theology and philosophy and
requiring that all students take them.)

Gene, as I understand it, Bruce Franklin ended up at Stanford after
being kicked out of Harvard.

-- 
Jim Devine / "Segui il tuo corso, e lascia dir le genti." (Go your own
way and let people talk.) -- Karl, paraphrasing Dante.
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