On Sat, Aug 2, 2008 at 9:30 PM, Perelman, Michael
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What Brad says makes sense and is consistent with the press reports.
> Roubini seems to have gone much further, suggesting that JPMorgan may
> have been weak because of holding too much of Bear Stearns' junk.  I
> cannot imagine what he meant otherwise when he talked about JPMorgan's
> counterparty risk.  What am I missing?
>


The conventional wisdom on BSC is that JPM was the only major bank
that was relatively untouched by subprime writedowns (Citi has a big
SIV and other problems, B of A has Countrywide to digest), so it was
the obvious candidate to absorb BSC.

There is however a minority opinion that suggests JPM is in nowhere
near robust health and in fact the BSC bailout was mostly an attempt
to prevent JPM from collapse from its huge derivatives book. Even back
in 2003, there were many rumors about Chase becoming insolvent because
of the size of its derivatives book. After the merger with JPM their
exposure only increased. Roubini might have been referring to this
possibility. Here's one example of the minority opinion on JPM:

http://us1.institutionalriskanalytics.com/pub/IRAstory.asp?tag=266
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While JPM currently boasts the highest Tier One leverage ratio of the
top three US banks by assets, in EC terms it appears to be the clear
outlier in the marketplace with the highest levels of economic risk
vs. capital of any large bank in the US -- with one exception:
Commerce Bancorp (NYSE:CBH). The relatively large MBS holdings of CBH
push its ratio of EC to Tier One RBC over 8:1 in the IRA Bank Monitor
simulation.

Why do we take such a dim view of JPM and the US banking sector
generally? First, because the US real estate market is not yet even
close to the bottom. Second, the commercial real estate and corporate
credit sectors are being dragged down by the same deflationary forces
that are causing the US economy to slow dramatically. When you
consider that US real estate markets and bank loan losses are unlikely
to bottom before this time next year, you begin to understand our
bearish outlook.

JPM has been lucky so far because its risk book is heavily weighted
toward commercial rather than consumer risk, unlike our beleaguered
friends at Citigroup (NYSE:C). But like last week's debacle involving
BSC, the fast deteriorating situation at C could provide a catalyst
that takes JPM down a couple of notches in the next few months.

We hear in the risk channel that the internal situation at C is going
from bad to worse as veteran Citi bankers are in near-mutiny against
the new, two-headed management team imposed by regulators. Meanwhile,
former CEO Chuck Prince, who is a consultant to C, is leading the
discussions with regulators on behalf of the bank and is, in effect,
acting as shadow chief executive of C. One insider predicts that the C
annual meeting in several weeks time will be "very messy" and notes
that acting Chairman Robert Rubin is nowhere to be seen.

Keep in mind that C, JPM and many other large banks are still trying
to get their arms around the full dimension of the risks facing their
institutions, this even as bank loan default rates remain well-below
long-term averages. All of the subsidiary banks of C, for example,
reported 127bp of charge offs in 2007, a full 2 SDs above peer but
well below 1991 loan loss levels.


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