Marvin posted it:

Yes, That's $2 Trillion of Debt-Related Losses Maybe now somebody will
listen By ROBIN GOLDWYN BLUMENTHAL AN INTERVIEW WITH NOURIEL ROUBINI
Barron's August 4, 2008

LIKE THE EXHORTATIONS OF JEREMIAH TO THE NATION OF Israel before the
first temple's destruction, the warnings of economist Nouriel Roubini
fell on deaf ears. For the past two years Roubini, a professor at New
York University, has cautioned about a huge housing bubble whose
bursting would lead to a 20% drop in home prices; a collapse in subprime
mortgages; a severe banking crisis and credit crunch; the near-failure
of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac , and a U.S. recession of a magnitude not
seen since the Great Depression. So far, this latter-day prophet of doom
has been on the mark, though time will tell about the recession part.

Snip

R:If you let Bear Stearns fail you can have a run on the entire banking
system. But there are ways to manage Bear or Fannie and Freddie in a
fairer way. If public money is to be put at stake, first all the
shareholders of these companies have to be wiped out. Management has to
be wiped out, and the creditors of Bear should have taken a hit. Why did
the Fed buy $29 billion of the most toxic securities, and essentially
bail out JPMorgan Chase (JPM), which bought Bear Stearns?

B:Because JPMorgan was a counter-party?

R:Exactly. The government bailed out everyone. Even the unsecured
creditors of Fannie and Freddie should have taken a hit. Sometimes it is
necessary to use public money to rescue institutions, but you do it in a
way in which you're not bailing out those who made the mistakes. In each
one of these episodes the government bailed out the shareholders, the
bondholders and to some degree, management.



Michael Perelman
Economics Department
California State University
michael at ecst.csuchico.edu
Chico, CA 95929
530-898-5321
fax 530-898-5901
www.michaelperelman.wordpress.com
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Michael:

> Is Roubini correct that JPMorgan was a major counterparty with Bear
Stearns
> & needed to be bailed out?

Where did Nouriel say this? Can you direct me to the relevant article?

Sabri
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