Carrol: > So capitalism needs The State but capitalism as capitalism does not create > the state
Agreed! States were there for many thousands of years, and I don't want to go into debating when capitalism started. There are those who are doing that already, and to be honest with you, although I pay some attention to them, I am more concerned about the present and the future. So, I let them deal with that problem. > -- the state is not intrinsic to capitalism as capitalism. This one is debatable, since capitalism has never existed without states. We will see if capitalism can go beyond the state and some, including Jim, make claims to that effect, but I am not convinced. Because markets cannot produce public goods in a capitalist economy, I find a stateless capitalism highly unlikely. In other words, without the state, capitalism cannot exist, be that state a national one or a single world state. But we are far away from a single world state at the moment, as I see it. Best, Sabri _______________________________________________ pen-l mailing list [email protected] https://lists.csuchico.edu/mailman/listinfo/pen-l
