On Oct 22, 2008, at 10:37 AM, ravi wrote:
I think those who argue against "peak oil" (the first idea: max production) or "sustainability" (the idea that consumption has limits) are usually arguing not against these ideas, especially "sustainability", but rather the more reasonable idea (though still incorrect, empirically, IMHO) that consumption patterns will change before such crises occur.


Yikes, that's all wrong. What I meant is that the critics of "peak oil" and "sustainability" are offering the "more reasonable idea... that consumption will change...". (they are not arguing against it, as the sentence above implies).

        --ravi

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